Comment on nostalgia

danc4498@lemmy.world ⁨10⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

• the_q@lemmy.zip ⁨9⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  You seem to equate the work an actual artist does to typing in a chat box. This implies that you know nothing of the work an artist does and therefore negates your opinion.

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  • danc4498@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    I was simply talking about work as a metric of time and energy. There is art that potentially can be done in AI that is not simply “typing in a chat box”. Just like photoshop artists aren’t simply “applying filters” or whatever it is they do (you’re right, I’m not an artist).

    And for much of the “slop” on the internet, it is just copying some prompt you found and tweaking it a little and posting it on the internet for points.

    I think artists have the potential to take AI to the next level and make even better things. Similar to how photoshop artists can make incredible art.

    This implies that you know nothing of the work an artist does and therefore negates your opinion.

    This is weirdly aggressive as I’m just giving my hopes for the future and not judging anybody… maybe you misunderstood what my comment was about.

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    • the_q@lemmy.zip ⁨4⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Do you really not see the difference in typing in “make a picture in the style of Rick and Morty of a cat scientist eating a fish sandwich” and someone using Photopshop to create the same thing? These are equal to you?

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      • danc4498@lemmy.world ⁨18⁩ ⁨minutes⁩ ago

        make a picture in the style of Rick and Morty of a cat scientist eating a fish sandwich

        Did typing that sentence take the same amount of time and energy as doing photoshop or hand drawn art? Cause that’s literally what I said, and you ignored that.

        There’s much more you can do than just “typing into a box”. A lot of AI art comes from combining handmade art with ai prompts. Finessing the image with more prompts. Training ai to produce results you’re looking for. Etc.

        Have a look at the Ai videos subreddit if you want an example of what I’m talking about. It’s mostly silly shit, but people are combining lots of tools as well as AI to create things that have never been created before.

        My hope is that someday AI can be used to elevate art in the same way that photoshop has elevated art. We have images and videos that were not possible before photoshop and other video/photo editing tools. The same creative out of the box thinkers that used those technologies are going so cool shit with AI.

        Please don’t act like I am saying that “typing in a box is the same as painting”. Cause that’s not what I said, and for some reason you keep acting like it.

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  • Skullgrid@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    You seem to equate the work an actual artist does to typing in a chat box.

    Books are just people typing onto paper.

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    • the_q@lemmy.zip ⁨8⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      That’s all it takes, huh?

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      • Skullgrid@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        oh shit, I forgot, no, you gotta write a certificate of authenticity and tell someone else to duct tape a banana to a wall, now THAT’S art! Typing in “banana duct taped to a wall” into an AI tool isn’t art, but when you call someone to do it, THAT’S when it turns into art.

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    • kurwa@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Yes a book is made when I ask probability to write it for me

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    • danc4498@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Give infinite monkeys infinite typewriters and infinite time and eventually you’d have avengers endgame script.

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      • Skullgrid@lemmy.world ⁨41⁩ ⁨minutes⁩ ago

        One of us already wrote all of Shakespere

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• Buddahriffic@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  I find the “AI slop” commenters as annoying as the “that didn’t happen/everyone clapped/albert einstein handed you a $100 bill” ones. Their contribution is shittier than what they are commenting on even when they are correct, but it’s not rare to see a comment like that followed by the dumbest logic as to why they think that’s the case (especially on reddit).

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  • danc4498@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Great point. I have found myself seeing a meme and laughing and enjoying it, then reading the top comments about “AI slop” and question whether I should have enjoyed it or not. I’m going to try to ignore that part of my brain from now on.

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    • Skullgrid@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Noo but what about the artists that could have been paid a comission to make that meme!?

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