Comment on Microsoft doing shady Microsoft stuff again

HugeNerd@lemmy.ca ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

• spicehoarder@lemmy.zip ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  You can

  • run your favorite flavor of Arch on your bare metal
  • use Aero theme plasma with KDE
  • legitimately install VMware Workstation Pro, since it’s free now.
  • run windows 7 in a VM with extended kernel patches. (bonus points for making your windows VM immutable)

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  • HugeNerd@lemmy.ca ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Hm, I’ll see what I can do about that. I have a Value Village rescue PC that will soon be set up.

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• Jakeroxs@sh.itjust.works ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Don’t use 7, you’re just asking for malware

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  • muhyb@programming.dev ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    It’s actually fine if it doesn’t have internet connection.

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    • sugarfoot00@lemmy.ca ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      That’s true of any OS.

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    • Jakeroxs@sh.itjust.works ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Who uses an OS without internet though lol

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      • muhyb@programming.dev ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        For old software that don’t work on modern OSes.

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  • HugeNerd@lemmy.ca ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    I’ve heard that the last time I said I till use 7, six months ago. Still waiting for that malware. You understand the only way to get this malware is to actively download it and install it, yes?

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    • Jakeroxs@sh.itjust.works ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Thats not remotely true, there’s many ways to inject things through ads or hacked websites onto your computer without you intentionally installing or downloading anything. Much much more rare and on updated systems generally will be better protected from those things, however using an outdated OS intentionally is asking for trouble.

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      • HugeNerd@lemmy.ca ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        Using an adblocker solves that. Not sure how that is specific to Win 7. Hacked websites? Name an example, source it. Difficulty: not from a movie with a skull and crossbones laughing on my screen. None of these hacker fantasies happen in real life. You do have a big hosts file and manage your router, yes? Give me a link to a “hacked website” (F! U! D! Oh my!) right now that I can click on and will install malware on my Windows 7 PC.

        Simply untrue. Hollywood fantasies.

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• Mwa@thelemmy.club ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  there is a security risk so no

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  • HugeNerd@lemmy.ca ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Please describe the nature of this risk, and explain why I don’t have any of them?

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    • seejur@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      No OS is safe, because within millions of lines of code, it is bound to have some vulnerabilities that can be exploited.

      But what is absolutely unsafe, is an unsupported OS, where the vulnerabilities that are found are not solved/patched

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      • HugeNerd@lemmy.ca ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        I agree, all I ask is you show me one in Windows 7. Send me a URL that when I click it my bank account is emptied immediately.

        All these threats people see are always something you actively install or are involved in, or some sort of social engineering scam. Even Windows 17 can’t help you with that.

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• sugarfoot00@lemmy.ca ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Why the hell would you want to?

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  • HugeNerd@lemmy.ca ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    In case I want to use a OS that still works, as opposed to the user-hostile resource-depleting exhausting visual messes like Windows 11?

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    • farngis_mcgiles@sh.itjust.works ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      In case I want to use a OS that still works

      Image

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• definitemaybe@lemmy.ca ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Maybe try ReviOS? It’s a “playbook” file you run on a clean Windows 11 install that strips out all of the telemetry and junk, and mostly “just works”. The only big potential pain point, imho, is not getting automatic driver updates from Windows Update.

  I just installed CachyOS with virt-manager running ReviOS in a virtual machine. For my needs, it’s amazing. Arch Linux allows for easy updates to the latest versions of software and CachyOS further improves it with optimized, pre-compiled packages, which is particularly relevant for a smooth gaming experience. (Outdated packages aren’t a good mix with new games, and the optimized packages improve performance.)

  The only “big” challenge I’ve had with Windows is getting videoconferencing working smoothly (my webcam is flickery), but that’s not a big deal. Zoom in Linux works great, and Teams/Zoom both work well in browser (in Linux). So, most of my work stuff is in the VM, but I have Zoom and a separate browser (for Teams meetings) installed in Linux.

  This setup requires a bit of technical skill; you need to be able to find and follow guides. (Ex. I need to troubleshoot why I couldn’t change the VM resolution, and the fix was to download a set of VM tools in Windows.) If you have light technical skills to search for and read guides, it shouldn’t be too challenging.

  (I use Arch, by the way.)

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• Valmond@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Yeah, it’s called the Mint version.

  /j

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  • Zink@programming.dev ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Seriously this!

    Win7 in a VM work great in Linux. But what you SHOULD do is just install Linux Mint and use it for a week.

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