Comment on Charlie Kirk in his own words.

• kameecoding@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  • Hitler

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  • plyth@feddit.org ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Please elaborate.

    I think whoever does evil thinks of the wrong people as good. Most will simply reject everybody as bad who opposes them.

    So the sentiment is true but it doesn’t work as personal advice.

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    • kameecoding@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Hitler is an obvious example of someone who might have thought they are good and doing a good thing, but his death was celebrated by good people.

      Because being good is mostly an outside measurement and not an inside assessment by the person, therefore your point is nonsensical.

      By your point republicans celebrated the attack on Pelosi and her husband, those are not good people however you slice it.

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      • plyth@feddit.org ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        So if Hitler’s grandma gave him that advice and he followed it, would he have done what he did?

        Good people celebrated his death, but the personal advice doesn’t work because we personally decide what is good. We distort goodness to what we need, which is fatal if we are on an evil path.

        It is not an objective, outside measurement, but it is sold as such, specifically because it makes good people do evil things for the good side.

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• BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Really dumb take, and simply not true. Plenty of bad people know they are doing wrong, and they do it anyway, because they want what they want, and they are going to get it. Every criminal knows they doing wrong, that’s why they try to hide it.

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  • MaggiWuerze@feddit.org ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Every criminal knows they doing wrong, that’s why they try to hide it.

    That’s also not really true. They can very well believe, that what they do is okay but they know that the law says otherwise. They hide because they want to avoid punishment, not because they feel that what they do is wrong (From their point of view)

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    • BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Yes they do. Unless they are truly insane, and think they are killing someone because they are possessed or something, they absolutely know they are breaking the law. They may feel they are justified in breaking the law, that the law, or society owes them somehow, but they still know they are breaking the law.

      Criminals often feel justified in their actions, that’s how they internally reconcile and justify their unlawful behavior, but they still know that it is wrong, at least in the eyes of society. They are just willing to risk any punishment that might follow because they want something so badly, and they aren’t willing to do whatever it takes to earn it legally.

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      • MaggiWuerze@feddit.org ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        But there is a difference between thinking you broke the law and thinking you did wrong. I am saying the latter does not necessarily happen in criminals

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