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Comment on Posting for the "Now guys he was MURDERED! Don't celebrate!" Crowd

I’d like to ask a general question that I’m not entirely sure I can give enough context for.

When did we as a society start listening so intently to what amounts to barely more than children? This Kirk guy looked chromosomal on top of being barely out of high school, how and why do so many people listen to him?

Half a century ago thought leaders were people like Isaac Asimov or Carl Sagan or Gwynne Dyer or Roy Bonisteel or any number of scholarly people over a certain age.

When did we start caring about high schooler’s opinions on a national level?

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iii@mander.xyz ⁨4⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago
I think since forever, there’s for example quite a few teenagers amongst the US Founding Fathers age when signing declaration of independence:

Alexander Hamilton 21 James Monroe 18 Nathan Hale 21 John Marshall 20 Aaron Burr 20 Charles Pinckney 18

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- SethTaylor@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago
  Imagine having to juggle being a Father and getting through college at the same time.
  
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Bennyboybumberchums@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago
The answer is social media. And theres grifters for everyone to latch on to, and get their opinions from.

It seems like the right wing have the market cornered, but thats only because we frequent left leaning social media holes. If you look at the right holes, you’ll see the same insanity going the other way. Unhinged blue hair land whales getting weird as fuck about a hot girl wearing jeans for example. But right now, if you look, what you’ll see an ocean of right wing grifters pointing to social media posts and comments and that are cheering on the death of Kirk. Which if you think about it, its pretty fucking sick. Yeah, he was a cunt. But that doesnt mean we have to be as well.

I mean, if I told you that someone was killed because of their political beliefs, youd think of Lincoln or Kennedy. And then if I told you people were cheering about it, youd think they were sick. But this is somehow worse. Charlie Kirk was killed not for politics, but because of the dumb as fuck culture wars that he took part in. Saying outrageous, bigoted dog shit, and then being celebrated for it by an annoying gaggle of cave brained cunts.

This is why people are celebrating. This weird culture war, that has both sides not seeing human beings anymore. Just talking heads that say things they dont like. The real horror of this is that a human being was murdered, and no one on the left side of the culture war for one second thought of the human being, or the horrific way he died. They just cheered and tapped away keys with satisfying clicky sounds. And worse than that, the cunt is now a martyr to that cause. This will only escalate now. And that, is nothing that anyone should be happy about.

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DeathbringerThoctar@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago
I see your point, but Asimov was born in 1920 and Foundation, arguably his greatest work, came out in 1951 when he was 31, the same age numbnuts was. “Barely out of highschool” just doesn’t apply and frankly feels like a disingenuous attempt to disparage youth. Age unfortunately has very little to do with stupid opinions.

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- Bobbinapples@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago
  Charlie Kirk co-founded TP USA in 2012 with a tea party activist when he was 18, the day after he graduated from high school. He also wrote an article for breitbart and appeared on fox news in his senior year of highschool. I believe that’s probably what the OP is referring to.
  
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  - DeathbringerThoctar@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago
    Ah, that does make sense
    
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ShittDickk@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago
We always have and it’s how the left has lost young men. Counterculture and much progressivism has always been young men meeting up to consume drugs and engage in pseudointellectual conversation. Each generation had them, the hippies of the 60s, punks of the 80s, beatniks of the 50s. However the counterculture spaces of growth and optimism men created grew to resent and exclude them, and they have been scooped up by the testosterone peddling rage dealers that pull them in by their curiosity and desire to better understand and affect the world and themselves. There they are twisted into being dependent on a guide to get them through the delusional world they then believe in.

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Boozilla@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago
This same phenomenon is how Trump rose to power. A lot of Americans are dumb AF and traditional politicians sound “fancy” and condescending when they speak, making them notice their own stupidity right in the feels. People like CK and 47 talk at their level and make them feel good about themselves, their regressive ignorant hatred of “libruls”, and so on. It’s Idiocracy in real life.

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- HugeNerd@lemmy.ca ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago
  I don’t know, I just regret not arranging my finances earlier so I can get the fuck out of the city, not have to work, and live as far as possible from people.
  
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