empireOfLove2@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 days ago
The US Marines stormed Los Angeles and started detaining american citizens
www.nbclosangeles.com/news/local/…/3761282/
theguardian.com/…/us-citizens-jailed-ice-los-ange…
What happened? Absolutely nothing.
A US Senator was violently thrown on the floor and dragged out in his home state
www.bbc.com/news/articles/c5ygn48djrko
What happened? Absolutely nothing.
I have yet to see any evidence americans will “use their guns” against fascists.
This is just cosplaying at this point
If you were every heavily involved in the gun community, everything the president is doing, they agree with. They only care about non republicans coming after them, they don’t care if it’s their own team hurting them.
I don’t miss those assholes or the hoops they had to jump around to convince themselves they weren’t huge hypocrites.
Also many of them drink and carry, which is a felony.
I have yet to see any evidence americans will "use their guns" against fascists.
The people who have traditionally yelled about 2A and "the gubmint" taking their guns are today's fascists. Besides that, using firearms to topple a fascist regime that controls the most powerful military the world has ever seen will require a great deal of organization, planning, coordination, supply, and about ten times as many people doing non-"infantry" stuff to have a snowball's chance in hell of being successful - let alone the political support of a whole lot of state and local governments.
Not sure what you think should be happening short of a full civil war. I mean, that's what it's gonna take, and that's what's gonna happen, but you can't seriously think that the practical foundations are yet in place for it.
I think you’re kind of agreeing here. OP’s point is that the guns do nothing to stop the rise of fascism and they never will. This isn’t the 1700’s anymore, the playing field hasn’t been level since the civil war. So these clowns crowing about their guns are full of shit.
OP is clearly conflating "Americans" with some very specific people they have a fair beef with.
Honestly wish you’d written this comment without the profane hyperbole. Because it’s correct. You didn’t need to be offensive — the truth stands on its own; hell, you didn’t even need the links — but here we are.
That they are trying to disarm their political adversaries seems like evidence. Afaik the situation so far is, the people they are detaining can mostly expect to survive. If it progresses beyond that, that’s when vulnerable groups still having guns gets more relevant, because the likelihood of a shootout is going to affect the scalability of mass arrests, or of the viability of extrajudicial killings by groups the government refuses to police.
RaoulDook@lemmy.world 4 days ago
Yep the gun control debate belongs squarely at the bottom of our list of problems right now. Passing any gun control law is the last thing that the orange hitler government is going to do anyway, unless it discriminatorily targets a certain minority group who they want to oppress.
basiclemmon98@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 days ago
…cnn.com/…/transgender-firearms-justice-departmen…
wizardbeard@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 days ago
Guess what? They’re trying to find a way to ban trans folks from owning firearms.