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ampersandrew@lemmy.world 3 weeks agoI’m kind of done talking about him or thinking about him, honestly. But this video is good for getting an inside look at a decent sample size of developers’ opinions, especially on the technical side.
missingno@fedia.io 3 weeks ago
I'm honestly a little bit uncomfortable with how much of the discourse around SKG suddenly became focused on dunking on one person. It's a useless distraction from the cause, there's really no good reason to even be talking about him at all. This kind of 2 minutes hate is just never healthy.
Vupware@lemmy.zip 2 weeks ago
Holy shit. 2 minutes hate. You just connected the dots for me.
Orwell was a prophet.
Klear@quokk.au 2 weeks ago
It is what saved the initiative though. It's certainly useless now, but at least it helped get across the finish line, tasteless as it may be.
echodot@feddit.uk 2 weeks ago
I think the movement stumbled into two potholes almost simultaneously and everyone bashing on him got it out of both of them. His discrediting and rejection of the movement didn’t help but in my opinion the far bigger problem was just the lack of advertising.
Until all of the controversy I’d literally never heard about the petitions, nor had I ever heard of anyone involved with it. I was aware of the lawsuit around the shutting down of the crew but I believe that was the extent of it. Even the likes of Lewis Rothman weren’t talking about it until about 2 months ago, so how’s a random person on the street going to know about it?
NuXCOM_90Percent@lemmy.zip 2 weeks ago
A LOT of us olds pretty rapidly saw parallels between Gamergate and SKG from very early on. The same “This is obviously something everyone should want?” on the surface that quickly gets a whole lot more complex when you think of nuance and remember that The Bad Guys are actually human beings and not kid sitcom level villains. And the constant worry that it would become about hating and destroying individuals.
Which is why a LOT of us saw this coming when Thor was dumb enough to go on record (devil’s) advocating for developers. And it became even more obvious once Ross et al decided the answer was to make their consumer rights movement all about attacking a nepo baby with a high voice who pissed off asmongold and may or may not be a furry. You are either with SKG or you are with Thor and fucking nobody wants to be with that d-bag.
For what it is worth: I am friendly with a decent number of folk in various parts of the industry and this shit is terrifying. Yes, the EU is a lot better than the US (and a lot more toothless…) but it is still asking Old White Guys to legislate on gaming and… a lot of us remember when fuckers like jack thompson and even frigging Biden wanted to Fix Video Games. Let alone the reality that this is a massive industry and bad legislature could destroy the lives of thousands of people (millions once you consider knock ons). But basically all of us agree that that is just not something you can talk about on The Internet without getting a hate mob sent your way.