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Modern_medicine_isnt@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

• MotoAsh@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  And that everyone’s too damn poor. Babysitter? Not on average wages! No one wants to give up all of their time and money for kids they might not be able to provide for.

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  • Pacattack57@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    There are people giving 100% of their paychecks for childcare and the spouse pays for everything else.

    That is a failure of the US and birth rates won’t improve until that changes.

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    • outhouseperilous@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      won’t improve

      Nothing wrong with current birth rates, just the reasons for them.

      I think you meant

      won’t increase

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      • Pacattack57@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        Low both rates deplete the workforce in the long term. Creates issues where tax revenue is low and cost of social programs and healthcare are extremely high because there are so many people at retirement age and beyond. Birth rates at a minimum should be stagnant.

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  • Bluewing@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Being poor has very little to with having children. The poor across the world have more children than the wealthy.

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    • MotoAsh@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      That doesn’t change the motivations of millions of people in the world. You know, the kind of numbers that can produce a massive dip in data…

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• bunchberry@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Well if there was public daycare to take the stress off of parents who couldn’t deal with it then it wouldn’t be as big of an issue.

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• garbagebagel@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  I don’t need more reasons to not want children, I’m already decided, but this thread is sure reaffirming.

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• HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Yeah we had to raise our siblings. Ain’t raising another generation without being paid for it. It’s why we work in education.

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• grindemup@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  I don’t really follow your train of thought. People would have been just as aware (if not more, due to the prevalence of multigenerational households) of this in the past as they are now, no?

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  • Modern_medicine_isnt@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    In the past people didn’t have access to a device with endless information about how rough it is the raise kids. Instead they had other local parents as a source, and those parents just wanted company in thier misery.

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    • echodot@feddit.uk ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      When I was a kid we used to just get thrown outside along with all the other kids and told not to come back until lunch time.

      We used to get up to all sorts no one cared. At one point someone’s dad took us all to the beach which was about an hour away, we all just got in this strangers car (never met him before) and went to the beach. I don’t remember my parents been even remotely bothered by that when they found out.

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      • Modern_medicine_isnt@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        There definitely was a “they are replaceable” attitude back then. Now try to imagine the generations before us, when 13 kids wasn’t that abnormal. And that 13 only counted the ones that survived.

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