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• NoForwardslashS@sopuli.xyz ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

  It’s hard to express how weird a statement this is…

  You’re stating cows experience no “real” suffering, which is verifiably false.

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  • theunknownmuncher@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    You’re stating cows experience no “real” suffering

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    • NoForwardslashS@sopuli.xyz ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      I had you tagged as “confidently incorrect” for some reason from a long time ago, so thanks for confirming that’s still valid.

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      • theunknownmuncher@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

        I had you tagged as “confidently incorrect”

        Well that’s ironic, given that you just tried to say I stated “cows experience no real suffering”, which is obviously ridiculous…

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      • Sunshine@lemmy.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

        That’s describes them accurately.

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• Dasus@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

  Good point.

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• Resonosity@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

  Have you ever been forcefully impregnated before?

  Have you even had your recent new born separated from you and made orphan?

  Just because the sexual act isn’t between the same species, and because the subordinate doesn’t resist, doesn’t make it any more wrong.

  And how do you know that cows DON’T resist being artificially inseminated? How do you know you can generalize?

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  • theunknownmuncher@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    First two questions: False equivalency, I am not livestock.

    Last question: It’s interesting that you have such extreme views without seeming to know anything about it. You should probably inform yourself and learn something about dairy, before choosing an extreme and naive conviction. I know the cows do not resist because they are artificially inseminated while in estrus.

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    • Resonosity@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      Your application of false equivalency here just cements my idea of you. You’re egocentric and anthropocentrist, and only care about the human species for moral consideration. You’re no different to me than the fascists in power the world over that seek to dominate minority groups.

      Cows have a variety of responses to being artificially inseminated. Because of this, farmers have adopted different tactics to force them to submit, whether that’s using drugs, stun guns, cages that don’t allow the cows to flee. Whether cows resist, which is possible, or they submit doesn’t matter. They are still raped at the end of the day.

      If YOU know so much about the dairy industry, then you either know the answers to this debate and choose to ignore them because it makes you look bad, or you ignore the reality altogether and tell yourself bedtime stories to cope with your already existing immoral habits.

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      • theunknownmuncher@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

        You’re no different to me than the fascists in power the world over that seek to dominate minority groups.

        Yep, gotta make everything black and white in order to process the world. Very healthy “if you eat dairy you’re a fascist” 😂 your childish naivety is showing.

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