Y'know, I understand where you're coming from, but my dad did his time in the military, including a stint in Vietnam. He's 81 now, and I don't see the harm in giving him a little bit off of a bill for his service. He's not obnoxious about it, but will sometimes ask, and take it if it's available. If not, no big deal.
This has more to do with propaganda. Where are the discounts for all other contributors to our functional society? Do the garbage people or the electrical worker or sewer worker get discounts?
Its all part of a much larger scale propaganda across our countries history.
I really don't get why a senior ex-military has better benefits than a normal senior. One is a benefit everyone applies and another is a benefit that a specific subset applies, and it's not like they do things that are more important than those that work everyday in the country to keep it running.
A kid spends 5 years in military, lifetime discounts. A teacher spends 5 years teaching, lifetime debt. I really don't get the point.
He should ask just like all Veterans. No big deal if they do not offer discount but nice when they do. It is just a small gesture of support.
People think Military/Service members are bootlickers on Reddit and here I guess. Reality is people join for various reasons a big reason is to support family. The government owns you during that time. You miss celebrations with family like; birthdays, holidays, marriages, and funerals. I know someone will say “well they volunteered.” That is right they did and you didn’t have to volunteer.
This meme is pretty bad to be real. People out here risking/giving their life for you. Man humanity is sliding into the abyss everyday.
My problem with the whole thing is well expressed by Bojack Horseman.
An IT technician who spends their entire career in air-conditioned offices in their home country but happens to be employed by the army is worthy of adoration, special treatment and prioritisation, but obviously a nurse saving lives on a daily basis and facing routine abuse from violent drunks and psychotic nutcases can fuck right off because they work at a privately-owned hospital.
Drawing a circle around the armed forces saying “these people are deserving of unquestionable praise and arbitrary benefits” is the same as saying “no-one else is” and it’s insulting to the intelligence of everyone involved.
At a certain point people just make excuses. First responders receive more discounts than Veterans. Because they are on the front lines everyday. I support that idea.
You are missing a lot of the sacrifices that Veterans make with a generalization. Required to move every 2-4 years. Deploy to various countries for unknown amount of time with less than 24hrs sometimes. Not being able to communicate with loved ones on a regular basis. Not coming back home with all your body parts or your battle buddy. But hey maybe there is a IT person sitting in a AC room in US. So screw all Veterans makes sense I guess?
This point would come off better if it were an argument for expanding the circle to include nurses and such, rather than removing the circle altogether.
Nusm@peachpie.theatl.social 1 day ago
Y'know, I understand where you're coming from, but my dad did his time in the military, including a stint in Vietnam. He's 81 now, and I don't see the harm in giving him a little bit off of a bill for his service. He's not obnoxious about it, but will sometimes ask, and take it if it's available. If not, no big deal.
Honytawk@feddit.nl 16 hours ago
Tell me why your father should be rewarded for when they performed the most horrible actions on other humans that anyone can think of?
If anything, they should pay more, and the money should go to all the families they have destroyed.
callouscomic@lemmy.zip 1 day ago
This has more to do with propaganda. Where are the discounts for all other contributors to our functional society? Do the garbage people or the electrical worker or sewer worker get discounts?
Its all part of a much larger scale propaganda across our countries history.
sartalon@lemmy.world 1 day ago
You get pissed at senior discounts too?
😂
fushuan@piefed.blahaj.zone 16 hours ago
I really don't get why a senior ex-military has better benefits than a normal senior. One is a benefit everyone applies and another is a benefit that a specific subset applies, and it's not like they do things that are more important than those that work everyday in the country to keep it running.
A kid spends 5 years in military, lifetime discounts. A teacher spends 5 years teaching, lifetime debt. I really don't get the point.
salty_chief@lemmy.world 1 day ago
He should ask just like all Veterans. No big deal if they do not offer discount but nice when they do. It is just a small gesture of support.
People think Military/Service members are bootlickers on Reddit and here I guess. Reality is people join for various reasons a big reason is to support family. The government owns you during that time. You miss celebrations with family like; birthdays, holidays, marriages, and funerals. I know someone will say “well they volunteered.” That is right they did and you didn’t have to volunteer.
This meme is pretty bad to be real. People out here risking/giving their life for you. Man humanity is sliding into the abyss everyday.
rmuk@feddit.uk 1 day ago
My problem with the whole thing is well expressed by Bojack Horseman.
An IT technician who spends their entire career in air-conditioned offices in their home country but happens to be employed by the army is worthy of adoration, special treatment and prioritisation, but obviously a nurse saving lives on a daily basis and facing routine abuse from violent drunks and psychotic nutcases can fuck right off because they work at a privately-owned hospital.
Drawing a circle around the armed forces saying “these people are deserving of unquestionable praise and arbitrary benefits” is the same as saying “no-one else is” and it’s insulting to the intelligence of everyone involved.
salty_chief@lemmy.world 1 day ago
At a certain point people just make excuses. First responders receive more discounts than Veterans. Because they are on the front lines everyday. I support that idea.
You are missing a lot of the sacrifices that Veterans make with a generalization. Required to move every 2-4 years. Deploy to various countries for unknown amount of time with less than 24hrs sometimes. Not being able to communicate with loved ones on a regular basis. Not coming back home with all your body parts or your battle buddy. But hey maybe there is a IT person sitting in a AC room in US. So screw all Veterans makes sense I guess?
meta4@retrolemmy.com 13 hours ago
This point would come off better if it were an argument for expanding the circle to include nurses and such, rather than removing the circle altogether.
sartalon@lemmy.world 23 hours ago
I thought it was a joke, but people really are butthurt about vets.
History just loves to repeat itself.