Comment on nobody in webdev knows what graceful degradation is anymore

• rigatti@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  What would they do instead?

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  • ackthxbye@feddit.org ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    How about serving a proper HTML that contains the data they want to display? Instead of an empty page that tries to load the data via JavaScript.

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    • chunes@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      I miss when JS was just a silly thing you could use to add trails to the mouse cursor to impress anyone who stumbled onto your geocities page

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    • possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      They could just add a text box that says please enable JavaScript.

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  • MonkderVierte@lemmy.zip ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    developer.mozilla.org/…/Graceful_degradation

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    • possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      It is a lot simpler to just require JavaScript. It is widely supported and is default enabled on all platforms and browsers.

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      • MonkderVierte@lemmy.zip ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Sending forms is a built-in functionality and you say it’s simpler to hack your way around it.

        I mean, sure, if your framework does it this way. But it shouldn’t.

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  • SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    When I ask a server for a page, it should give me content, not a shitty script and a note that says “here, you do it.”

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    • possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      That isn’t how it works

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      • SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Sorry about your stroke

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• possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  Have you ever tried building a modern page without JavaScript.

  You can do a lot of things with HTML5 and CSS. It just is very complicated and painful. It isn’t intuitive and the behavior will vary across browser.

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  • bjoern_tantau@swg-empire.de ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Yes, that’s my job.

    The point isn’t to emulate the JavaScript functionality somehow. The point is to simply fetch the desired information as a new page load when necessary. The page should work in lynx.

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  • Swedneck@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    sure, it’s painful and pointless to build a fucking virtual machine without JS, but you can do 95% of normal website things with pretty bog standard HTML+CSS these days. You don’t even have to fiddle about to do pretty complex things, that’s just built-in most of the time.

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