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It is a bit weird that we use some fruits as “vegetables”, like tomatoes and cucumbers. But, other fruits like mango or raspberry are so different from your typical “culinary vegetable” that you have to be very careful in how you use it in a savoury dish. There isn’t the same crossover for other edible plants. For example, I can’t think of any tuber that could sneak into a fruit salad unnoticed.

I guess it comes down to there being a lot more variety among fruits than other edible plant parts. Plus, humans have been tweaking edible plants for millennia. So, who knows, maybe the original cucumber was more “fruity”, but has been tuned over the years to be more “saladey”.

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idiomaddict@lemmy.world ⁨32⁩ ⁨minutes⁩ ago

For example, I can’t think of any tuber that could sneak into a fruit salad unnoticed.

It’s not whole, but I can definitely imagine tapioca being used to thicken the juice for a fruit salad, and that comes from cassava, a tuber.

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squaresinger@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

For example, I can’t think of any tuber that could sneak into a fruit salad unnoticed.

Some sweet potatoes can be very sweet indeed, and they can be used in sweet dishes too (I’ve seen for example, sweet potato mash topped with marshmallows). They are just too porous to be used in a traditional fruit salad.

I guess it comes down to there being a lot more variety among fruits than other edible plant parts.

Pulses are incredibly variable too in their usage. You can use them as nuts, vegetables, grains, oil or pastes (sweet and savoury). You can use them in place of potatoes, you can bake bread from them, you can even use them to replace meat in many situations. Young sweet peas can be used almost in place of some fruit as well.

So, who knows, maybe the original cucumber was more “fruity”, but has been tuned over the years to be more “saladey”.

Cucumbers are a kind of pumpkin, same as melons. They are all variations of the same original fruit, and yes, some of them are clearly in fruit-salad territory, while others are more saladey and others again can be used in place of potatoes.

And lastly, the most crazy variable plant is Brassica. Different cultivars of this one plant provide swede, turnip, kohlrabi, cabbage, collard, kale, cauliflower, broccoli, romanesco, Brussels sprouts, mustard seed, rape seed and a lot of smaller, lesser known things too.

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ilinamorato@lemmy.world ⁨14⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
Definitely interesting. I wonder if there might also be a little bit to the fact that botanical fruits are basically just the best way to house seeds so that they’ll have some energy to grow when planted, which means that it’s independently evolved in a lot of different plants; so the culinary diversity of “fruits” is much greater.

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- merc@sh.itjust.works ⁨14⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
  Yeah, that seems likely to me too. Especially because some fruits are designed to appeal to animals who will eat the fruit and then poop out the seeds somewhere, and different fruits will appeal to different animals. A fruit “designed” to be spread by birds will be different to one “designed” to be spread by a hippo.
  
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