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Using years and hundreds of dollars is not min/maxing precision. That's a stupid excuse for something you should own up because your made up numbers detract from your point. If the numbers don't matter then this shouldn't make your argument look ridiculous.

Nintendo, the company that makes gamers pay them $5000 for a new console every year, and then $800 for a new skin of the exact same game every month, and calls it innovations and consumer friendliness.

You can't just make up numbers and expect to have reasonable argument. By making up numbers you're just opening yourself up to criticism (which it seems you can't take) even if the actual point you're making is right.

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masterspace@lemmy.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

Using years and hundreds of dollars is not min/maxing precision. That’s a stupid excuse for something you should own up because your made up numbers detract from your point. If the numbers don’t matter then this shouldn’t make your argument look ridiculous.

Counterpoint: shut the fuck up, you understand my point just as well as if I had looked up the right numbers and adjusted them for inflation.

Nitpicking is not the same thing as conversing. Grow the fuck up.

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- pycorax@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago
  You’re also not having a random conversation on the street, this information is just a quick search away. By making up numbers and creating a bigger issue when existing issues are already strong enough of an argument, you hurt your own credibility and attacking people for pointing that out is even worse.
  
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  - masterspace@lemmy.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago
    No, it’s just a good way to filter out people who want to engage in pedantry and people who actually want to discuss the issue at hand.
    
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- Goodeye8@piefed.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago
  I understood your point because we're on the same side and I took a generous interpretation of what you said. Now that I've taken a really critical look I have no fucking idea what you were trying to say because the numbers make no sense.
  
  If I correct your 500 and 4 years, your statement becomes "Nintendo sold their consoles at industry pricie for the average console lifecycle". Oh the horror, Nintendo does what every other console seller does. And the part about selling a reskinned game at full price every 2 years? If I'm being generous I'd say you're talking about BOTW and TOTK. But that's not 2 years and it's not a reskin and your argument implies multiple games but I can barely come up with one.
  
  Your entire comment could've been only the second part and it would've been just as informative as what you actually wrote. That's how worthless your fucked up numbers have made the point.
  
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  - masterspace@lemmy.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago
    
    If I correct your 500 and 4 years, your statement becomes “Nintendo sold their consoles at industry pricie for the average console lifecycle”. Oh the horror, Nintendo does what every other console seller does
    
    No, Nintendo historically produces under powered consoles and overcharges for them so they can make a profit on every console from day 1. That is not what the other console makers do.
    
    And the part about selling a reskinned game at full price every 2 years? If I’m being generous I’d say you’re talking about BOTW and TOTK. But that’s not 2 years and it’s not a reskin and your argument implies multiple games but I can barely come up with one.
    
    Mario Kart, Smash Bros, Mario Party, etc etc etc
    
    Nintendo sells
    
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- tyler@programming.dev ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago
  Your numbers are so far off as to be meaningless. If the real numbers are half that, and you compare to their competitors, then it’s an entirely different story. The numbers you provide are completely integral to your argument, and your numbers being so wrong means you’re just complaining about nothing.
  
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  - masterspace@lemmy.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago
    Nope.
    
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Cyv_@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago
Here’s the thing. You’re not arguing against their point you’re arguing about the specific figures not being entirely accurate.

Watching you two go feral over specificity doesn’t convince anyone of anything, it just makes people hostile to talking to you because now they feel they have to hedge everything, because if not you’ll reply with

“You’re*”

And ignore the whole argument they made. Nobody wants to engage with that level of nitpicking pedantry.

Being right isn’t always worth it, because you put the other person in defense mode, show you don’t care about the spirit of the argument as much as the letter, and essentially insult the person in the process.

You’re right, you’re just shit at conversational strategy. Enjoy the fights. That’s all you’re having.

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- tomalley8342@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago
  When the point is that the Nintendo company charges gamers too much money, the accuracy of the amount of money being charged is relevant, no?
  
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