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skuzz@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

Very true, your example is airtight. Where mine gets a bit more in the weeds, is the air conditioners and filters in the cabin have an express purpose of manipulating the temperature and climate, that is their only purpose. Otherwise the air coming into the cabin would be so hot from being compressed in the engines everyone would die and all the machines onboard would overheat.

It was a bit more technical, complicated, (air inside a plane in the atmosphere is still air from the atmosphere being manipulated!) and on the edge though, and not as easily conveyed as umbrellas.

So perhaps, they should just ban the air conditioners on jets to get it technically correct?

Kudos for yours though, it was to the point.

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agamemnonymous@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

the air conditioners and filters in the cabin have an express purpose of manipulating the temperature and climate, that is their only purpose.

I think you’ve accidentally uncovered a better example. Regular home A/Cs work by releasing hot air into the atmosphere:

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To make the inside cool, they have to disperse hot air (which is definitely a chemical or substance) into the atmosphere. That is their express purpose.

So by this law, A/C in Florida is banned.

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- partial_accumen@lemmy.world ⁨21⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
  The “have to” is the side effect though. The “express purpose” is still to produce cool inside air.
  
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  - agamemnonymous@sh.itjust.works ⁨18⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
    That’s like saying the express purpose of hunting isn’t to kill something, it’s to acquire meat. The express purpose is to move heat from inside to outside. You can’t “produce” cool air, you can only move heat.
    
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    partial_accumen@lemmy.world ⁨17⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
    
    That’s like saying the express purpose of hunting isn’t to kill something, it’s to acquire meat.
    
    If you’re hunting to eat, the express purpose of hunting is to acquire meat. If you’re hunting for sport, then you may not care about the meat the express purpose would be the desire to the kill or the resulting trophy.
    
    You can’t “produce” cool air, you can only move heat.
    
    You’re focusing on the mechanism. The definition of “express purpose” is focusing on the result.
    
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  - snugglesthefalse@sh.itjust.works ⁨21⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
    The express purpose is to affect the temperature within the state borders (inside a building, which is still in the borders).
    
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    partial_accumen@lemmy.world ⁨20⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
    
    … (inside a building, which is still in the borders).
    
    …but may be hard to argue it meets the other clause of “in the atmosphere”. Yes, there is air in the building, but unless the building isn’t well sealed (which it would be generally well sealed to keep the cold in) then the cold isn’t expressly being released into the atmosphere.
    
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