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partial_accumen@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

I am all for classifying pollution this way the law, as written, excludes it with this part:

“…for the express purpose of affecting…”

The express purpose of releasing pollution from jets is to provide thrust for transportation. The pollution is a byproduct and not part of the express purpose. An umbrella’s function of blocking the sun is an express purpose of the device.

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skuzz@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago
Very true, your example is airtight. Where mine gets a bit more in the weeds, is the air conditioners and filters in the cabin have an express purpose of manipulating the temperature and climate, that is their only purpose. Otherwise the air coming into the cabin would be so hot from being compressed in the engines everyone would die and all the machines onboard would overheat.

It was a bit more technical, complicated, (air inside a plane in the atmosphere is still air from the atmosphere being manipulated!) and on the edge though, and not as easily conveyed as umbrellas.

So perhaps, they should just ban the air conditioners on jets to get it technically correct?

Kudos for yours though, it was to the point.

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- agamemnonymous@sh.itjust.works ⁨10⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
  
  the air conditioners and filters in the cabin have an express purpose of manipulating the temperature and climate, that is their only purpose.
  
  I think you’ve accidentally uncovered a better example. Regular home A/Cs work by releasing hot air into the atmosphere:
  
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  To make the inside cool, they have to disperse hot air (which is definitely a chemical or substance) into the atmosphere. That is their express purpose.
  
  So by this law, A/C in Florida is banned.
  
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  - partial_accumen@lemmy.world ⁨7⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
    The “have to” is the side effect though. The “express purpose” is still to produce cool inside air.
    
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    agamemnonymous@sh.itjust.works ⁨3⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
    That’s like saying the express purpose of hunting isn’t to kill something, it’s to acquire meat. The express purpose is to move heat from inside to outside. You can’t “produce” cool air, you can only move heat.
    
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    snugglesthefalse@sh.itjust.works ⁨6⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
    The express purpose is to affect the temperature within the state borders (inside a building, which is still in the borders).
    
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