Is it possible for creators to earn money on PeerTube? If not, maybe that’s what’s holding a lot of them back. And of course the fact that most people don’t know what PeerTube is. It should be easily accessible for everyone and have some kind of system to give the creators money. And make the switch from YouTube easy.
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descartador@lemmy.eco.br 1 day ago
What will it take to make PeerTube relevant enough that people will creat content and follow creatos on the fediverse?
frittoBee@lemmy.world 1 day ago
WoodScientist@sh.itjust.works 1 day ago
Most creators on YouTube make their main money from patreon/merch anyway. No reason you can’t do that on peertube.
zalgotext@sh.itjust.works 1 day ago
Making money on merch/patreon can only happen once your channel is established though. Until then, YouTube creators are dependent on ad revenue to keep them going, and probably operate at a loss until they reach the point where they can supplement that ad revenue. Trying to get yourself established on a platform that doesn’t offer any ad revenue is a much harder sell.
irelephant@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 day ago
As much as I like federation, stuff like nebula seems like a better solution.
descartador@lemmy.eco.br 1 day ago
The issue is that nebula doesn’t offer the community aspect that YouTube offers
WoodScientist@sh.itjust.works 1 day ago
Yeah I have a subscription there. I recommend it.
descartador@lemmy.eco.br 1 day ago
It’s possible, but they have to implement the paywall or ad revenue by themselves. They are allowed to monetize, but it’s not necessarily trivial or even profitable, at this point.
cley_faye@lemmy.world 1 day ago
Accessibility, usability, scalability at very, very large scale, actual searchability, and actual return on investment, because some people actually get money from youtube?
Actually, peertube, depending on the instance and the popularity of the content, can be incredibly frustrating for a viewer. And it can be frustrating to the content creator. Some people are quick to dismiss minor (and less minor) annoyances, are able to look for fixes, and so on, but for almost everyone? The experience is nightmareish, with incertain returns (or no returns at all, as it stands).
Once you fix all that, you might have a chance to convince larger entities to move to peertube. Well, more realistically, to host their own instance. Well, more realistically, to host multiple instances, because really some people would hammer the platform down with each video. See the issue yet?
descartador@lemmy.eco.br 1 day ago
I agree, but I didn’t really get the last point about hammering the platform.
cley_faye@lemmy.world 1 day ago
Peer to peer viewing can only go so far. Some people, when they put a video out, get hundred of thousands of view in the span of a few minutes. This works relatively well on youtube, with a very large CDN (and probably some heuristics for big accounts). It is enough to hinder “smaller” platforms like dailymotion. It would just be a terrible experience on peertube as it is now, unless the creator preemptively mirrored it in many, many places beforehand.
descartador@lemmy.eco.br 1 day ago
Maybe the peer to peer aspect of it could sustain big amounts of viewers
Aggravationstation@feddit.uk 16 hours ago
More people will over time but I don’t think the average person ever will. Most people I’ve tried to explain the concept of open source software and initiatives like the Fediverse to either won’t shake from their belief that they must be a lame imitation of proprietary offerings or in a lot of cases outright don’t trust them for not being direct for-profit endeavours. The only interactions these people have had with the digital world have been as part of the modern data scraping hellscape that was once termed “Web 2.0” and became the norm as the internet went mainstream in the '00s. They weren’t part of the internet when it was a niche interest and more open so they know no better. Whilst they might agree that it’d be a better world if software and services didn’t track or manipulate you when you ask them that question directly, they can’t truly conceive of tech that doesn’t. Better the devil that you understand the motives of than one that you don’t who must have some sort of Machiavellian scheme going on behind the curtain, because everyone does deep down, right? I’m not an expert in psychology but I don’t think it’s overly dramatic to say it puts me in mind of those poor individuals who were abused as children and never received therapy so go on to seek out other abusers in adulthood.
Krudler@lemmy.world 1 day ago
Nothing.
There is a massive gap between the aspirations of online consumers, and actual consumer behavior.
People will never ever support creators, that’s the bottom line. People are greedly little fucks and they like it. Don’t fool yourself.
I say this as a former massive streamer will millions of watched hours. People. Are. Shit.
frittoBee@lemmy.world 1 day ago
I think it has a lot to do with people not having enough money. I’d love to support every creator I like but its simply not possible. If we’d all earn enough money the creators would earn more as well.
Allero@lemmy.today 8 hours ago
Exactly! Sometimes I feel I do not support creators/open source projects enough, but then I remember I’m dead poor and sometimes can’t afford food without going into debt, so hey, I’m not quite in the position to.
And there are quite a lot of people like me. Once the situation improves a little, they first improve their standards of living a little, they get to afford and buy things they long needed, and only then can they actually spare money to support someone or something.
Many don’t get to the latter part for a long while.
descartador@lemmy.eco.br 1 day ago
Sorry, but I don’t think what you said is correct. People love supporting others and it happens all the time to many creators. Sorry your experience was negative.
Omnipitaph@reddthat.com 1 day ago
The masses don’t know how to search for information anymore. Not only that, but they are unable to do so with the disparity of their understanding of the search engines and the current state of search engines. People are used to being fed information through an algorithm, and those who control the algorithm aren’t about to promote a competitor that’d take away their money.