And honestly, the vehicle engineers are partly to blame for this in my opinion. Are you telling me there are no sensors in the car to let you know if there is a person in the seat so that their stupid little seatbelt not fasten chimes can ring? If they can tell that there’s a person inside, or that there is still a seatbelt buckled, DON’T TURN THE AC OFF AUTOMATICALLY
Comment on Baby dies after California mom leaves him in car to get lip filler on 101-degree day, police say
TheLoneMinon@lemmy.world 1 day ago
However, her 2022 Toyota Corolla Hybrid is equipped with an automatic feature that turns the engine off if it has been left running for one hour while in park, police said. Police estimate that the engine turned off around 3 p.m. and the children were left without air conditioning until Hernandez returned around 4:30 p.m.>
Looks like she left the car on and it shut itself off. Still inexcusably stupid, but it wasn’t quite as brain dead as just deciding to leave them in a hot car in the middle of summer.
Her child died because of her stupidity and the over-engineering of the 2022 Toyota Corolla. c\fuckcars
Pyr_Pressure@lemmy.ca 1 day ago
quokka1@mastodon.au 1 day ago
@Pyr_Pressure @TheLoneMinon Cars are seeming to forget who is in charge.
I've a mate who's just dropped over 100k on a brand new LandCruiser and deliberately went for not the top-spec because it has too many "safety" features. And he's still finding things like it won't drive if a door is open - so no leaning out to reverse his towed caravan. Lane departure assist is ridiculously aggressive (and actually dangerous when towing a big caravan). Dog on the back seats sets the seatbelt alarms off. And way too much other stuff. Some of it can be disabled permanently with the aid of an ODB dongle.
Car makers need to just stop.Pyr_Pressure@lemmy.ca 1 day ago
I had to drive a new Toyota Tacoma for a biology job. I needed to drive it in “offroad” conditions, which means there was grass over 12" in height (farm field).
It would automatically slam on the brakes and scare the shit out of me every time I tried to reverse and it thought the grass was something I was going to hit.
Drove me absolutely insane.
Pyr_Pressure@lemmy.ca 1 day ago
I do not condon leaving children alone in a vehicle for ANY amount of time…
But I also absolutely despise vehicle manufacturers thinking their unnecessary “features” are in any way needed at all, especially in a form which cannot be disabled or needs to be disabled after each time the vehicle turns off and then on.
Fucking hate vehicle manufacturer engineers. Probably one of the least needed jobs out there.
VEHICLES ALREADY HAVE EVERYTHING THEY NEED, STOP ADDING SHIT EVERY YEAR JUST FOR THE SAKE OF ADDING SHIT.
Taleya@aussie.zone 1 day ago
Well what do you want them to do, increase fuel efficiency??
teegus@sh.itjust.works 1 day ago
yes, but… you’re telling me that she left a 1 yo and a 2 yo alone for 2,5 hours? forget the car and the weather. You shouldnt do that ANYWHERE. I wouldn’t have left my kid alone for 2,5 minutes at that age.
Fedizen@lemmy.world 1 day ago
Our grand parents did this kind of stuff all the time. Kids were allowed to roam free in forests for hours. Weirdly if she’d left the kids in a forest they probably would be fine.
A lot of the danger comes from car infrastructure. Parking lots might as well be the surface of mercury on a hot day with almost no shade. Traffic poses a lethal hazard to kids. Almost all shade is removed on purpose in public urban areas lest god forbid homeless people decide to hang out at a covered rest stop. And don’t even think of letting kids wander around shops or commercial areas.
Not saying this lady did anything right but society has to own up to its role in making urban areas hostile to children.
teegus@sh.itjust.works 1 day ago
my kid would have killed himself clinbing up a ledge at that age. a 5 yo maybe, but i would need a source for your claim of 1 yos being left alone for hours in the forest
PlaidBaron@lemmy.world 1 day ago
There isnt a source because parents didnt do that. Its rose tinted glasses.
RedditRefugee69@lemmynsfw.com 1 day ago
There’s no way your grandparents left their kids to roam the forest as infants for hours.
Fedizen@lemmy.world 8 hours ago
Its a twofold problem its not just “grandpa played in the forest as a small child” its also:
"people now work and run errands much further from their house in environments very hostile to children. As such monitoring children has become vastly more complicated than much of human historu.
DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social 13 hours ago
Papa always said not to ask why he doesn’t like gingerbread
Lifecoach5000@lemmy.world 1 day ago
Right??! This was a 1 year old and a 2 year old for Pete’s sake!
themaninblack@lemmy.world 1 day ago
This is not a generational thing if you live in Bakersfield or Visalia or Fresno. Most of the time I’d agree.
TheLoneMinon@lemmy.world 21 hours ago
Not a parent, but I couldn’t imagine leaving an infant unattended for that amount of time, let alone in a car in a parking lot somewhere. I’m by no means excusing it, but things are fucked and every day the world seems to be getting dumber. I’m picking at the scraps of intelligence I can. Like yeah, she was dumb, but at least she THOUGHT there was AC in the car.
Idk man, things ain’t great and Im trying to find the humanity. It’s getting tougher to do.
chetradley@lemmy.world 1 day ago
Or if it’s my one year old, 2.5 seconds and she’s getting into something she’s not supposed to.