Comment on Car crashes have killed and seriously injured roughly the same number of people as shootings in Chicago this year. Only one of these things is treated as a safety crisis in the media

corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

• Dozzi92@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Right. I can’t ride my gun to work or the grocery store. I get that there’s a lot of negatives associated with car culture, but it’s a tool in a way that firearms are not.

  source

  • SwingingTheLamp@midwest.social ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    An automobile, at the end of the day, is a luxury item. A toy. Humanity existed for most of its history without cars, and even today, you can get to work or the grocery store without one. (Granted, often not easily, but that’s only because we’ve made it difficult to get there any other way. But making it difficult was a deliberate policy choice designed to exclude poor people.) One could argue that the automobile is an anti-tool, as its use is making our lives materially worse (traffic violence, health impacts, pollution, ecosystem destruction, climate change, the burden on government and personal budgets), but that ignores a car’s major function as a cultural identity marker, and for wealth signaling. We humans value that a lot. Consider, as but one common example, the enormous pickup truck used as a commuter vehicle, known as a pavement princess, bro-dozer, or gender-affirming vehicle.

    In that way, they’re exactly the same as firearms, which are most often today used as a cultural identity marker. (Often by the same people who drive a pavement princess, and in support of the same cultural identity.) Firearms are also also luxury toys in that people enjoy going to the firing range and blasting away hundreds of dollars for the enjoyment of it. But beyond that, the gun people have a pretty legit argument, too, that their firearms are tools used for hunting and self-defense. They are undeniably useful in certain contexts, and no substitute will do. One certainly wouldn’t send mounted cavalry with sabers into war today.

    source
  • LeninsOvaries@lemmy.cafe ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Your car is just as dangerous as a gun. You’re not allowed to wave your gun around at McDonald’s, so why can you drive your car through it? It’s corruption. Cars were going to be banned in cities before the auto industry started passing bribes around.

    source
  • HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    maybe you need a fancier gun?

    source
  • pleaaaaaze@lemmings.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Common misconception. You actually can ride your gun to work, but you really have to shove it in here. My advice is use more lube

    source
• LeninsOvaries@lemmy.cafe ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Yeah, cars aren’t even designed to kill people and they still do it just as much as guns. They’re way too dangerous to be legal.

  source

  • Draedron@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    That doesnt make any sense. Since card have other purposes than killing they can be legal.

    Since guns only exist to kill they should not be legal. But it is a fight against wind mills since americans love their ability to kill who they want more than they love their kids.

    source

    • LeninsOvaries@lemmy.cafe ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Car drivers kill more people without even trying than shooters kill. Imagine if the car drivers were actually trying to kill people. Cars are probably a hundred or a thousand times as dangerous as guns if you control for intent.

      source

      • Draedron@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        Yet cars are not made to kill and have a purpose in everyday life. Guns dont. But sure, I am all for building more public transportation.

        source

        • -> View More Comments
• limer@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Cars, roads, and car culture are inflicting harm though, even if it’s seen as a neutral tool by many

  source

  • Zorque@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Lots of things cause harm while also doing good things. It’s a balance.

    The problem is when that balance skews more one way than another.

    source

    • LeninsOvaries@lemmy.cafe ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      I hope the next “acceptable casualty” of car culture is you

      source
• Goldmage263@sh.itjust.works ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Are you saying that OP is making a “cheap false equivalence”? They are commenting on news coverage, so I don’t follow what you mean.

  source

  • breecher@sh.itjust.works ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Yes, OP is very much doing that. They are commenting on how they think that news coverage should do a false equivalence on those two things.

    source

    • Goldmage263@sh.itjust.works ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Ty. I guess OP could be hinting at that. I don’t pick up on hints very well, and thought they were saying the news should also report about vehicle accident and death rates sometime.

      source
  • wellheh@lemmy.sdf.org ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    The graph didn’t offer the conclusion- op did, and yes it’s cheap

    source