Comment on Crunchyroll accidentally confirmed it uses ChatGPT for subtitles

nieceandtows@programming.dev ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

• megopie@beehaw.org ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  See that’s the kicker, for the longest time it was basically all fan translated subtitles, and only recently have payed for translation become the norm.

  So it’s really quite pathetic for them to try and save a few bucks by replacing a proper translator with a LLM, given that there are still plenty of passionate fans who would have done it for free. Especially given that translating between Japanese and English in a cultural context heavy situation is something these LLMs are really bad at.

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  • Unboxious@ani.social ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    given that there are still plenty of passionate fans who would have done it for free

    I’d imagine this is a non-starter from a corporate standpoint. I know if I were in charge I’d be terrified of the idea of just trusting community-submitted subtitles to not have random slurs or something inserted. That said I still think it would be super cool if they’d let people source and use their own subtitle files; I now it’s possible because I have a tampermonkey script that lets me do just that.

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    • megopie@beehaw.org ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      That’s the core of the issue, crunchy roll has sat its self as a corporate middleman, buying the rights to distribute shows and then charging consumers a subscription for access.

      But they can’t be bothered to do the only actual damn work their position would realistically demand, beyond renting server space; providing translations for the foreign media they’re distributing.

      That’s without even discussing the fact that not a single penny users give them will end up in the hands of any of the exploited artists who actually made the shows, since the industry doesn’t work on residuals or any other kind of profit sharing, the licensing fees crunchy roll pays essentially going straight to financiers.

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      • Unboxious@ani.social ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        That’s without even discussing the fact that not a single penny users give them will end up in the hands of any of the exploited artists who actually made the shows

        That’s quite the assertion. How exactly do you suggest they’re buying the rights to distribute the shows then?

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      • borari@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        So pirate the shit and use whatever subtitles you want.

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• sabreW4K3@lazysoci.al ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  In terms of anime fansubs, it’s normally just great folks in the community. Some got hired by studios. But the studio is meant to provide the subs.

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• yetAnotherUser@lemmy.ca ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  It seems that they have, or at least had in 2023, internal teams that handled the translations. crunchyroll.com/…/international-translation-day-2…

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• handsoffmydata@lemmy.zip ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  I maintain my own media library and I ensure every file has English and German subtitles. There are a variety of ways to source srt files but when all else fails a machine with enough compute can transcribe video files using open source whisper. After I generate an English srt file from the video I send it to OpenAI to create the German translation.

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  • dubyakay@lemmy.ca ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Is there something similar for manga? Something that can overlay Japanese text on images, similar to what we have on smartphones but for the PC?

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    • handsoffmydata@lemmy.zip ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      If your video file is Japanese language use a whisper model optimized for Japanese. Once it produces the Japanese srt you can get translations from open ai. Use handbrake to add the srt to the file and you’re done. Good luck!

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      • dubyakay@lemmy.ca ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        Sorry. By manga I’ve meant image data, like pngs or JPEGs.

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