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Vaggumon@lemmy.zip ⁨19⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

• entwine413@lemm.ee ⁨18⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  I’m not sure they can in this instance. The reason they could sue the Switch emulator team was because they were using a proprietary encryption key.

  I don’t think the NES had that, and as long as you own the game, emulation is legal.

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  • glitchdx@lemmy.world ⁨17⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Nintendo was able to sue palworld using a patent that didn’t exist before palworlds release. It’s not right, but they can do whatever they want regardless of what the law says.

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    • samus12345@sh.itjust.works ⁨16⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      They were able to do that because Palworld is made by Japanese devs, and they used specifically Japanese patent law. Doesn’t apply here.

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    • BlameTheAntifa@lemmy.world ⁨13⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Exhibit number 4,923,768 for why patents should not exist and need to be aggressively banished from civilization.

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    • entwine413@lemm.ee ⁨17⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      That’s not the lawsuit that’s being discussed. It’s the Yuzu Switch emulator lawsuit.

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      • glitchdx@lemmy.world ⁨17⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        yeah, i know. Point is that Nintendo can do whatever they want with the flimsyest excuse.

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  • callouscomic@lemm.ee ⁨17⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    as long as you own the game, emulation is legal.

    People say this, but I believe it is mostly technically untrue. It’d be a relatively easy argument to say that a downloaded ROM that isn’t exactly the digital copy YOU purchased with a license would be seen as not legal.

    However some people talk about literally ripping the game off the physical device themselves, hence copying their own copy of it. Now you are in grey territory of making copies of copyrighted materials, and in the case of more modern games like the last decade, they almost assuredly have language that specifies you don’t actually own the code and all that.

    All I’m saying is be careful and probably refrain from repeating the fallacy that owning a game makes emulation of it legal, because that implies having the ROM is legal and that’s doubtful.

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    • mycodesucks@lemmy.world ⁨16⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Copying your own game and materials for backup purposes is no grey area, and neither is development or use of emulators, and panicky, uninformed spewing of gut feelings are how public knowledge of your actual rights gets muddled into people with zero knowledge waxing poetic about how they THINK it works because they like games and think that makes their ramblings valuable.

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      • PlasticExistence@lemmy.world ⁨15⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/17/1201

        In the USA, it is illegal to make a backup copy of any of your media when the original contains any form of DRM.

        On any media where DRM wasn’t used, you’re okay to create a backup copy.

        The law is different everywhere though.

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    • PlasticExistence@lemmy.world ⁨15⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      The emulation itself is legal, assuming you’re not using any copyrighted code, BIOS, etc. to make work.

      The backup copy of your game that you need can be made legally as well, but in the USA, if the source contains a form of DRM, then you cannot legally make a copy.

      www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/17/1201

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• 9point6@lemmy.world ⁨19⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  I wonder if Steam would remove it from people’s libraries in that instance or just the Storefront

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