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The reality of this all is rather complex but I think the greatest issue is fundamentally the empathy gap. Men’s issues are not recognized as issues, they’re just dismissed out of hand. I’m talking about the easy things like the sentencing and education gaps.

We need to start the discourse that these are very real problems that are worth addressing.

Another problem I personally run into is how it’s acceptable to discriminate against men, “kill all men” is acceptable but “kill all race” isn’t. Neither should be and we don’t recognize it as a problem, instead defaulting to arguments that are considered horrendous in another context.

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HasturInYellow@lemmy.world ⁨21⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
Every time I have heard someone say “kill all men” I have immediately dismissed everything else they are saying because their logic is just as rotten as other racists/sexists

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- Shardikprime@lemmy.world ⁨17⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
  How did you dismiss all the leftists in one fell swoop?
  
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  - Feathercrown@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
    If you’re spouting off “kill all men” nonsense you’re not a leftist you’re just a propaganda recycler
    
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    Shardikprime@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
    So 98% of Lemmy then
    
    Thanks for confirming
    
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ScoffingLizard@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨19⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
If they wanted to address the education gap, wouldn’t they? Why would they want to when trades provide more money, no lost income for 4-5 years, or a crippling debt? Women are at a disadvantage there. I mean, I definitely don’t want to minimize overlooked hardships, but…

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- disconsented@lemmy.nz ⁨19⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
  You’re paying with your body, the work can be very dangerous, and it takes a while to ramp up to decent pay. On top of that the pay isn’t always going to be better than a degree (iirc research has concluded that lifetime earnings for trades are behind degrees), ignoring countries with sensible tertiary education options.
  
  Trades are not equivalent. And education is still a significant indicator of political alignment.
  
  Honestly, this is a great example of the empathy gap.
  
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