Comment on What do you think the solution to selling progressive politics to young men is ?

• KoboldCoterie@pawb.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  Without having stats to back it up, it seems perfectly logical to me. Cishet men are the people conservative views benefit the most, and they’re the people folks like Andrew Tate specifically target. If I had to make a blind guess, I’d have said it’s cishet men, too.

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  • the_q@lemmy.zip ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    No I agree with who is problematic. My comment was in reference to the solution being both forced on to women and under the assumption that courtship (sex) is the only way to reach those men.

    I’m not an apologist, but when people are, from birth mind you, molded and made to be a certain way how are they supposed to behave? When they do reach an age where they have some beginnings of autonomy and critical thinking skills what happens? Phase 2 begins in the form of rightwing bullshittery. Couple all that with no sense of identity or value and you’ve got a recipe for destruction. Very few men can break free from all that. They’re, we’re, victims and villains.

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    • lurch@sh.itjust.works ⁨16⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      it is not the only way, but sex sells and that’s also what the nazis do: on one hand they have indoctrinated women cosplay the lucky trad wife and on the other hand they imply men can just keep women like pets if they’re rich or alternatively at some point get a girl pregnant, guilt trip her into not aborting, then basically ruin her carreer and force them into a marriage they can’t ever get out of. that’s what fascists present to boys on youtube, tiktok and other media to win them over. they also have other talking points, but this is one propaganda vector.

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• tetris11@lemmy.ml ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  I said regressives, most of which I’d wager are cishet men.

  That doesn’t count cishet men outside of the regressive group. I hope, otherwise I’d be in trouble with myself

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