Comment on YouTube "search results"

• blargle@sh.itjust.works ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  It’s not censorship. It’s just what happens to any platform run by a publicly traded company whose customers are the advertisers and whose users are the product.

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  • arin@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    They did change the algorithm to censor results in google search and now YouTube has also been censored.

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    • MotoAsh@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Stop assuming corporate greed is anything but corporate greed… PLEASE stop blaming generic things for things the greedy fucks are doing. You will become infinitely more wise if you come to understand the vast majority of shitty things that happen from corps or governments are actions to protect the wealth and ego of the rich.

      YouTube’s enshittification is about GREED, not censorship.

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      • arin@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        Censoring did happen. Why do you assume i don’t agree that corporate greed is also an issue?

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  • morrowind@lemmy.ml ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    but I don’t understand, how does having shitty search help improve advertiser revenue

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    • merc@sh.itjust.works ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      You search for “blah”, Google gives you a bunch of bad results, and serves up 5 ads. Nothing matches what you want, so you search again “blah but not foo” and you get another 5 ads. If search were good you’d only see 5 ads, but because it sucks you get 10 ads.

      If Google had real competitors, bad search results might mean people would give up and use a competitor’s search, but because they have a search monopoly, they can enshittify their results and show even more ads without losing users.

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      • Omnipitaph@reddthat.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        I switched to startpage for this very reason, and it was better for a while! Now its not as good and I’m thinking of going Duck. Idk man, someone needs to reinvent old Google’s search alg.

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    • blargle@sh.itjust.works ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      In a word, [Enshittification].(…medium.com/my-mcluhan-lecture-on-enshittificatio…) The original Cory Doctorow article explaining it

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      • morrowind@lemmy.ml ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        I know the general term, but I don’t see how in this case still. On somewhere like amazon, there’s a clear incentive to have bad search, initially to capture sellers, then later to force them to pay to be high in search results, but youtube has no such program. You can’t pay to be higher in search results.

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    • tiramichu@sh.itjust.works ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      They are incentivised because showing accurate results for what you asked for isn’t necessarily the best way to keep people on the platform.

      By pushing certain types of videos, such as opinionated content or loud shouty videos for low attention spans, YouTube hopes to keep you engaged for longer than they would by being accurate.

      There’s also a direct advertising reason to funnel certain types of video. YouTube creators earn different amounts of money for the same number of views depeding on what category (e.g. financial, gaming, writing advice, cookery etc) YT has auto-categorised your video as. We can infer from this that advertisers are willing to pay more money for ads in some categories than others, and therefore YT is directly incentivised to push those more lucrative categories in search results, even if they aren’t what you wanted.

      Plenty of reasons why they want to mess with results.

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• possumparty@lemm.ee ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  also grow the fuck up and stop using slurs like a petulant eight year old schoolboy stuck in 2005.

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  • Feathercrown@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Petulant

    Definitional collapse in action

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    • possumparty@lemm.ee ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Petulant is not the same as retarded. Petulant describes you acting like a pedantic fool when being called out for using a slur that denigrates disabled people. Soak your head you feckless imbecile.

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      • Feathercrown@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        I’m a different guy. “Petulant” actually means acting in a sulky or bad-tempered manner, ie. what children do when they don’t get their way. So I repeat: How is it relevant?

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