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I love teaching my friends how to drive stick. The first lesson is how to make the idle car move by lifting the clutch foot so slow that you can feel the car move and keep going slowly until the foot is off the clutch pedal. It’s about a 15 minute lesson and the driver understands what to do with the clutch. The gas is easy.

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SchmidtGenetics@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago
In their own car right? That’ll kill the clutch after a few friends.

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- Noobnarski@lemmy.world ⁨11⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
  It depends on the car, my first car used gasoline, so the idle torque was low and you really needed to push the gas at the same time, otherwise it would stall, maybe not if you are releasing the clutch extremely slow, but that is not practical.
  
  My current diesel car has so much torque even at idle that you really don’t need to press the gas pedal while releasing the clutch.
  
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- 0ops@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago
  It’s slow, but in most cars the idle is torquey enough that it’s not that slow. My beater doesn’t even have 1st gear anymore, so I start in second, and I can still go from a full stop to clutch fully released and rolling in like 4 seconds without touching the gas at all.
  
  I feel like this is something that you just have to do to learn though. You can’t smoothly and competently operate the clutch without understanding the bite-point, and for a noob it’s going to be really tough to get a feel for that bite-point if they aren’t taking it very slow at first. Speed will come, usually after only a few starts
  
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  - ChicoSuave@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago
    It’s also nicer to pedestrians and other drivers if the car isn’t sporadically revving or lurching.
    
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    0ops@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago
    Exactly! In city driving or parking lots when I’m just creeping around I literally don’t touch the gas at all sometimes
    
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- ChicoSuave@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago
  Nope. I teach them in my car. And yeah, the car might sometimes stutter but that doesn’t hurt anything. It’s hard to harm to a clutch without using the gas pedal or a graded street.
  
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- hobovision@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago
  You aren’t having them redline the engine and slip the clutch going up a hill. Practicing idle starts in first is probably way less wear than a single sporty start on a highway on ramp.
  
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- greenhorn@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago
  On principle I only teach in their car, but made an exception for my friend’s husband since he wanted to rent a manual overseas. I learned my lesson, he didn’t
  
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