Comment on Even Starfield's community patch modders are growing 'disenchanted' with the sci-fi RPG, as volunteers depart in droves: 'If nobody comes forward, we may have to retire the project'

• Kolanaki@pawb.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  If you don’t call that generic, I have to wonder how you define the word “generic.”

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  • PeterisBacon@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    By the literal definition.

    “characteristic of or relating to a class or group of things; not specific.”

    Ship building alone is very specific, there are very little games that let you truly customize the entirety of the layout on your ship. On top of that, the crazy about of realism that goes into that is insane. Everything can affect something else in that. I’m also a huge fan of the procedural planets, like dozens of them, which what super disappointed me was walking for what felt like daaayyyss across a map.

    So again, the concept was great, the execution was not.

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    • vala@lemmy.world ⁨22⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      You’re describing mechanics not a concept.

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      • PeterisBacon@lemm.ee ⁨21⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        Well, I’m celebrating mother’s day today, so I wasn’t going to even have my phone out, but since I am pooping let’s talk ‘mechanics’ LMAO.

        So you’re pretending now that mechanics aren’t part of a game’s identity? That’s adorable.

        Listen, kiddo, game concepts aren’t just the napkin pitch like ‘space adventure with guns.’

        That’s like saying a restaurant concept is just ‘we serve food.’ 💀😂

        The execution of those ideas, how deep the systems go, how player agency is handled, the SCOPE of what you can do, is the process of a concept.

        Mechanics are the embodiment of concept. Otherwise, every shooter is just ‘point and click,’ and every RPG is just ‘talk and fight.’ You have to look at the HOW, not just the what.

        Cheers mate, glad you have a perspective on it. Take care!

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• Tar_alcaran@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  massive choices on where the story goes based on your responses,

  Really? What massive choices do you make? Hunter or emissary? That just changes the last 20 minutes of the game. Before then, you have no major impact on the plot.

  the capabilities to befriend or antagonize any enemy whether a human, alien, or these strange pirates

  But you don’t. You can’t befriend the pirates, there arent really any strange aliens, and you can’t antagonize most friends.

  You deal with politics, survival,

  Do you? There’s some minor “deal with this for me” stuff from the factions, but that’s hardly politics.

  And survival isn’t an issue in the game at all, even though you can see the scrapped leftovers from it.

  attempting to save the galaxy while trying to discover the hidden story.

  The “hidden story” is spelled out and telegraphed in the main questline. It’s not a souls like where you piece it together, they literally tell you to your face

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  • Kolanaki@pawb.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    You can’t befriend the pirates

    Yeah you can. That’s literally one of the only major choices you can make; destroy them or join them.

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  • PeterisBacon@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    Listen mate, agree to disagree. You are getting into all the points as to why it crushed my hopes, as I have said. Each of those aspects was a great concept, as I have overstated, but the concept fell short, my hopes carried the game farther in my mind than the game could go.

    Each topic I pointed out was an area of the game that I felt they could have driven more, but they failed to execute. Then it seemed like there was a glimmer of hope as they were pushing for some major fixes like finally adding a vehicle to travel faster on planets, but again, they fell short and here we are going back and forth like school kiddos arguing about if its the coolest game or not.

    Its far from it mate, I agree with all of you but you’re all trying to nitpick each aspect rather than reading my very very first post where I said its a great concept, but it crushed my hopes.

    Calling something great is an individual perspective. This is all my perspective, this will be my last response in regards to this topic. Do you have a favorite game that you think is a great concept and great execution? Personally, I don’t, unl3ss we go back to gameboy days.

    Cheers mate, hope youre well.

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• Sanctus@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  You also just described KOTOR 1 & 2, Elite Dangerous, Eve Online, Endless Skies, and in a way Hellpoint. All Sci-Fi.

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  • PeterisBacon@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    LOL kotor is all story line. What ship are you building there?

    Elite? Thats a flight sim, not an RPG

    Eve? Show me first person on there.

    Endless skies? Do you mean endless sky? Or endless space? Genuinely unfamiliar with that. Guess its too generic.

    Hellpoint? The level based game with their small maps?

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    • Sanctus@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      For sure, ill feed your curiosity. Starfield is expanding to the stars, massive choices on where the story goes based on your responses, the capabilities to befriend or antagonize any enemy whether a human, alien, or these strange pirates. You deal with politics, survival, and attempting to save the galaxy while trying to discover the hidden story. If you call that generic, I feel sorry for you.

      Yeah except you didnt say ship building. You didnt say anything about game mechanics here, this is all marketing jargon that can be interpreted in different ways. Maybe go with mechanics if you’re trying to paint uniqueness instead of regurgitating the back of the pamphlet.

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      • PeterisBacon@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

        lemm.ee/comment/20340407

        Try reading more than one selective post.

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• ICastFist@programming.dev ⁨20⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  Sounds like an AI generated blurb and very far from reality, especially as you have almost no choice in anything, exactly zero of them feel meaningful in any way, can’t “antagonize anyone” (yay for essential npcs 😒), aren’t saving the galaxy and the “hidden story” is one of the worst “ITS THE MULTIVERSE LOL” stories I’ve seen.

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  • PeterisBacon@lemm.ee ⁨17⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Can we just hug this out?

    I like the game, some hate it, im disappointed in it, but I dont wanna keep fighting online about it. I’d rather hug it out.

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    • ICastFist@programming.dev ⁨15⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      I don’t have a problem with people who like and enjoy the game, I just don’t understand your reason to say the game is something that it actually is not

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      • PeterisBacon@lemm.ee ⁨14⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        The game, in my perspective, is exactly what I said it is. You don’t have to understand it brother, just like I don’t understand yours. I do appreciate your perspective though, you’re free to have it.

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