Comment on Does the average person have no critical thinking?

• Opinionhaver@feddit.uk ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Toupee fallacy. Just because you can recognize some of the propaganda, it doesn’t mean you can recognize all of it. You’re not aware of what flies under the radar while still influencing you.

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  • over_clox@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    I don’t have anything influencing me except my roommate and my mom, and that’s usually just helping keep their vehicles running, carrying groceries, taking the trash out, and bathing the dog.

    I see the politics and propaganda every day, I just don’t give a fuck. Nothing I can do about it anyways.

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    • JeSuisUnHombre@lemm.ee ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Ah so you’ve fallen for the propaganda that says you don’t have the power to change anything, that’s just what the small number of elites want the large number of masses to think

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      • over_clox@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        I’ve helped the NSA return stolen laptops, and risked my life putting out a forest fire with my hoodie before it got a chance to reach the dead grass field.

        Of course there’s things I can and have done to help change the world, but politics ain’t quite my thing.

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• devx00@infosec.pub ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Bold of you to assume you recognize every piece of propaganda for what it truly is. And that you have a choice to just ignore it. It often feels like we are in control of what we give attention to and what we choose to retain as factual knowledge but we’re not.

  The best we can do is try to recognize when some piece of information, or source, we believe may not be as valid as it once appeared and try to rectify our beliefs moving forward. It’s a never ending job. But if you want to actually have beliefs based in fact there’s no other option.

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  • over_clox@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    I believe in mathematics and schematics. I also believe in the right to repair.

    I do not believe in invisible deities and I don’t trust most politicians.

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    • TeamAssimilation@infosec.pub ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Those are like the most superficial layer of propaganda. The real danger of propaganda is that it doesn’t look like it, it looks like other regular people making you support their interests without you realizing it.

      Do you like engines? Do you dislike electric vehicles? Do you like guns? If so, when and where did those ideas come from? You weren’t born with them.

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      • over_clox@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        The real propaganda is money.

        Like, whoever designed the idea of rent (which is basically a safe place to perform the biological function of sleep and store your stuff).

        You don’t own a damn thing anymore, nor do I. But for real, whoever invented the concept of rent, invented the concept of taxing humans for the right to sleep in a safe space.

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  • LainTrain@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Yes. However believing all beliefs are equal because they are equally likely to be false which is what “everyone is influenced by propaganda” implies, is also an incorrect way to think and an intellectually dishonest shirking of responsibility. Kudos to you for not simply repeating the mantra but stating the right response to it.

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• cmhe@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  If you see propaganda everywhere, the it was successful on you. One purpose of propaganda is to erode the fundamental trust in society and sow distrust about anything and anyone, that way people become politically ineffective and easy to manipulate.

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  • over_clox@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    I don’t have any significant distrust in society in general, just a heavy distrust of the greedy oligarchs in positions of power.

    Meanwhile, the orange turd posted an AI generated image of himself as the next pope…

    youtube.com/watch?v=5AvLxeTvivY

    Go ahead and read some comments there, he done offended even the atheists out there!

    I’m not a governor, attorney, judge, senator, etc in any position to directly do anything about the crooked powers in charge, but as a citizen, I guess this is the best I can do, share the news.

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