Comment on New to lemmy. Is there a version of /r/changemyview?

Deceptichum@quokk.au ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

• Squorlple@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  This is from the subreddit mods’ rules. I don’t see it necessarily implying OP to be in the wrong or in the right. It really just implies those damn corporate admins are at fault. OP could just want a platform which doesn’t censor a discussion on subject matter alone.

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  • Nemo@slrpnk.net ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    That matches my experience with reddit admin. One of my subs had to implement exactly the same rule.

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    • schnurrito@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      When I first became active on reddit, I admired how few sitewide rules they had and how much free speech they allowed.

      Now they ban debate about one of the most contentious and multifaceted societal issues of the present. What are online discussion forums there for if not to openly and civilly exchange ideas about issues like this?

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      • Nemo@slrpnk.net ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        Part of the problem is that discussion of this issue in particular was very often not civil and created a hostile environment for users.

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  • jol@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    That’s very important context for this question

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• jannaultheal@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Are you familiar with the subreddit /r/changemyview ? I don’t have a topic to discuss right now. But I am against the reddit admins banning a certain topic from being discussed because it’s controversial.

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  • Deceptichum@quokk.au ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    I haven’t really used reddit since Lemmy almost 2 years ago now, but yes I’m familiar enough with the sub and its concept.

    Is it because it’s controversial, or because nobody operates in good faith and uses it to attack trans people?

    Because I’m so tired of JAQ offs.

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  • FreedomAdvocate@lemmy.net.au ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Lemmy admins/mods are even more heavy handed than Reddit ones from what I’ve seen in the mod logs - especially around transgender topics. There is seemingly no discussion allowed, only echo chamber agreement.

    Like if you said that you agreed with the UK Supreme Courts ruling on biological sex and sex based spaces, you’d probably be banned for being “transphobic” on many communities and instances here.

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    • cabbage@piefed.social ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      on many communities and instances

      Bingo!

      We have no ambition of being more lenient than Reddit, it's just less centralized. If you want to be a bigot you can find yourself an instance and a community for that, and other people can choose not to be exposed to your bullshit. That's the whole point.

      Also, the UKSC judgment is a pseudo-scientific piece of junk. Agreeing with it is a big-ass red flag.

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      • FreedomAdvocate@lemmy.net.au ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        Also, the UKSC judgment is a pseudo-scientific piece of junk. Agreeing with it is a big-ass red flag.

        This is a giant red flag actually.

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    • Sidhean@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Well yeah; that is a transphobic ruling.

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      • FreedomAdvocate@lemmy.net.au ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        If that’s what you think you don’t understand the ruling, or transphobia.

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    • jol@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      I’ve personally never been banned on reddit, but been banned 2 or 3 times on Lemmy for being too argumentative.

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      • FreedomAdvocate@lemmy.net.au ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        From what I’ve seen the last week, basically if you don’t agree with the group-think you’re labelled as “trolling” automatically lol. You don’t even have to be doing anything even remotely resembling “trolling”, just saying something that isn’t what the echo chamber decided is the right opinion.

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