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Sir_Simon_Spamalot@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨years⁩ ago

• FlyingSquid@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨years⁩ ago

  They should hate PETA too. No one has done more to hurt the cause of ending animal cruelty than PETA.

  Their shelter euthanization rates are shocking too.

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  • Sir_Simon_Spamalot@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨years⁩ ago

    Thank you! There’s surprisingly an awful number of supporters here, I don’t know why…

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  • wafflez@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨years⁩ ago

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    • FlyingSquid@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨years⁩ ago

      I don’t do gish gallops, so I’m just going to address this:

      PETA kills animals because unfortunately there are no better places for them.

      That is bullshit. There are no kill shelters all over the country. There’s one in my town. They didn’t even euthanize after they were overwhelmed when we had a huge storm that destroyed structures. They just found people who would foster while they could rehome as much as they could. PETA doesn’t do that.

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      • Sotuanduso@lemm.ee ⁨2⁩ ⁨years⁩ ago

        Today I learned what a Gish Gallop is.

        British journalist Mehdi Hasan suggests using these three steps to beat the Gish gallop:

        1. Because there are too many falsehoods to address, it is wise to choose one as an example. Choose the weakest, dumbest, most ludicrous argument that your opponent has presented and tear this argument to shreds (also known as the weak point rebuttal).
        2. Do not budge from the issue. Don’t move on until you have decisively destroyed the nonsense and clearly made your point.
        3. Call it out: name the strategy. “This is a strategy called the ‘Gish Gallop’. Do not be fooled by the flood of nonsense you have just heard.”

        Nicely done.

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    • 1simpletailer@startrek.website ⁨2⁩ ⁨years⁩ ago

      Its also just totally a false equivalency. Lets entertain for a moment the fact that Peta is an imperfect organization that doesn’t always do the right thing. Okay and? The industry they protest exploits not just animals, but Children and Workers. Its carbon footprint is playing an instrumental role in destroying the biosphere. But sure, PETA is imperfect so I guess we’ll all just keep eating meat.

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  • dx1@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨years⁩ ago

    Do more research on that claim.

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    • Sir_Simon_Spamalot@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨years⁩ ago

      here’s one for starter

      here’s another one

      this one’s a bit dated, but still relevant

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      • dx1@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨years⁩ ago

        Yes, start with the Wikipedia one that, that actually begins to examine it critically and points out that the campaign was spearheaded by an animal industry lobbying group…

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      • abraxas@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨years⁩ ago

        I’d just stop now. I just realized who you’re commenting with, and the guy just had a long-ass pissy argument. When I slowed down to show him evidence, he kept changing topics and then ragequit when it didn’t work.

        Feel free to check my comment history (or his) for proof of this.

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    • FlyingSquid@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨years⁩ ago

      I love it when people say this without even suggesting where to do this research. Let me guess- Google it. Because that’s what I already did.

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      • dx1@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨years⁩ ago

        There’s the approach I have to fact-check things, I don’t know what other approach people have honestly. Look up fact-checking, debunking etc. on it. I know there are dozens to hundreds of pages that fact-check the parroted “PETA euthanizes too many dogs” claim. I honestly can’t believe people are still bringing this one up, I don’t know how it could possibly be on me to start digging up sources for you.

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• citrusface@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨years⁩ ago

  Nah I’m vegan, fuck peta.

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  • Sir_Simon_Spamalot@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨years⁩ ago

    I’m a full-time meat eater, but I respect vegans who don’t go around minding people’s businesses, which is exactly what peta does.

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    • abraxas@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨years⁩ ago

      I think that’s the problem. So many people are unaware of the difference between vegans, militant vegans, and peta-assholes. The second and third are the hardest to differentiate (and they are different)

      When you can someone to start ranting about depopulation intervention and driving food species to extinction, then you found the PETA (also the PITA)

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    • Emerald@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨years⁩ ago

      All activism could be called “minding people’s business”. That’s not really a fair criticism.

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  • ShitOnABrick@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨years⁩ ago

    Based

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    • citrusface@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨years⁩ ago

      not really. peta militancy helps no one. you arent going to make people eat less meat by being assholes and shame people for eating meat. Peta would have better results is they just advocated for people to eat less meat and be more conscious about where there food in general comes from as well as advocating for proper animal care and awareness. They are never going to stop people from eating meat and they seem to refuse to accept that.

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      • v4ld1z@lemmy.zip ⁨2⁩ ⁨years⁩ ago

        Dude that’s like saying that any form of activism that calls you out shitty behaviour is in vain and shouldn’t be practised. Not a good take

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• x4740N@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨years⁩ ago

  Indeed, fuck peta

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• ShitOnABrick@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨years⁩ ago

  Don’t you mean peter

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  • VikingHippie@lemmy.wtf ⁨2⁩ ⁨years⁩ ago

    Or maybe the dude from The Hunger Games? You know, the weird one with the bad name?

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    • ShitOnABrick@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨years⁩ ago

      What do you mean they all have bad names

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      • VikingHippie@lemmy.wtf ⁨2⁩ ⁨years⁩ ago

        True, but IMO his is the worst one and he’s the who is supposed to be one of the normal ones but has a weirder vibe than most of the ones that are SUPPOSED to be all weird and futuris.

        Kinda like an emo Eminem with super strength but even weirder.

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  • Sir_Simon_Spamalot@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨years⁩ ago

    That too, but not as much as PeTA

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    • ShitOnABrick@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨years⁩ ago

      What about peta griffin

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      • Sir_Simon_Spamalot@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨years⁩ ago

        Yeah, fuck him too

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