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ImplyingImplications@lemmy.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

• daggermoon@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  The Canadian government is pretty weird about that aren’t they?

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  • ImplyingImplications@lemmy.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    Quebec government, specifically. Other provinces only require government services to be provided in both French and English but private businesses can mostly do what they want. Quebec requires private business to be conducted in French unless the customer requests service in a different language. Any non-French text or speech made to a customer before they request it can be seen as a violation. They can be a little overzealous at times.

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    • TheBat@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      What’s the menu like for Indian restaurants in Quebec? Are there French names for Biryani, Paratha, Paneer etc?

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      • captainlezbian@lemmy.world ⁨19⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        At a certain point I have to assume they just slap a bunch of "le"s on and call it a day

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      • ImplyingImplications@lemmy.ca ⁨18⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        The government eventually said exotic dishes with no French name are allowed as an exception. Looking up menus of Indian places in Montreal shows they have completely Indian names for many of their dishes.

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    • SARGE@startrek.website ⁨21⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Damn, I’ve heard jokes about quebecios being snobby with their French but that seems excessive.

      Which makes it all the more hilarious that the French people I know have joked about Quebec speaking “garbage French”

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      • merc@sh.itjust.works ⁨4⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        They’re not at all snobby. The French in France are snobby. If you try to speak to them in French and it isn’t Parisian-style french, they’ll try to switch languages on you because they can’t bear to have their dear language mangled like that.

        The Quebecois aren’t snobby, they’re just obnoxious about preserving their language and culture. And it gets pretty absurd. Around the world stop signs say “STOP” even in French speaking countries. But, in Quebec they mostly say “Arret”, and when a local English-speaking community has stop signs that say stop, vigilantes sometimes change them to Arret.

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      • MirthfulAlembic@lemmy.world ⁨19⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        There are certainly stories of overzealous enforcement, but the context of Loi 101 and its amendments is worth considering.

        Québecois is really interesting. It has a lot of old, outdated French in it due to the colonial connection with France being severed hundreds of years ago, where it evolved distinctly and the locals made different decisions on what to change and how to adapt to new concepts.

        One could argue the French government has been obsessive about policing language much longer with the académie française.

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      • sugarfoot00@lemmy.ca ⁨15⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        Damn, I’ve heard jokes about quebecios being snobby with their French but that seems excessive

        It’s not snobby. From an anglo perspective, here’s how it plays out in reality:

        WAITER: Qu’est-ce que vous voudrais? ME: Huh? WAITER: What would you like? ME: {proceeds to order}

        …And life goes on.

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  • merc@sh.itjust.works ⁨4⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Nope. The Canadian government just sighs and wishes Quebec wouldn’t be such a problem.

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    • daggermoon@lemmy.world ⁨29⁩ ⁨minutes⁩ ago

      French is the dominant language in Quebec?

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