Comment on Quantum mechanics might have the solution to joystick drift

silverchase@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

• 30p87@feddit.org ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

  Also, Hall effect fixes all problems, since decades. Why weren’t they used widely? Because that would cost poor little Nintendo/M$/Sony a few cents more. So they sure as hell won’t implement that new thing.

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  • DacoTaco@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

    Its not that i disagree with you, they should have used them and its pretty bad ( though a lot can be fixed with some good old wd40 for electronics lol)

    However, its not a few cents more. Its way way more. A regular stick is around 1.84 - 2.73 euro a piece depending on how many you order from official components store. A hal sensor stick is often 2-4 euro.

    Lets say 150mil switches are sold, each having 2 sticks. 150,000,000 * 0.40 = 60mil difference in cost for the company, at least, for using different sticks. And thats just sticks that come with the console, not separately sold controllers or pro controllers.

    Manufacturing cost is very different than just ‘its a few cents more’.

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    • 30p87@feddit.org ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

      And a switch costs, MSRP, ~300€/$. So they just got 45,000,000,000, 45 billion dollars. Or, in other words: They could raise the MSRP by 6$. Which would be justified for a then better product.

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      • EddoWagt@feddit.nl ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

        They are never going to sell a product like that for €306 or whatever. They’d probably bump it up to €349 in that case

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    • SparrowHawk@feddit.it ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

      Manufacturing also gets cheaper when scaled

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      • CHKMRK@programming.dev ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

        But this applies to both sticks, so the relative price difference would still stay roughly the same

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    • Arcane2077@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

      I hope you’re joking. They’re already selling a product with a BOM of $20 at most for 70-90 monetary units. They can absolutely afford a few cents more

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      • CallateCoyote@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

        8bitdo sells a fantastic controller that does everything the Switch Pro controller does besides gyro for $25. It has hall-effect sticks, hall effect triggers and a much better d-pad. It really sickens me how greedy the console manufacturers have gotten with controller prices.

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      • Burnoutdv@feddit.org ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

        Nu nu, it would be way more expensive, have you thought about all the not sold controllers with incredible markup due the stick not drifting? I not saying that it is planned obsolescence but it really quacks like a duck

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      • DacoTaco@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

        Im not saying i disagree, im saying its more complex than “just a few cents”.

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  • mr_jaaay@lemmy.ml ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

    Yeah, there are quite a few Hall effect controllers on the market, from what I’ve read they’re quite good…

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  • state_electrician@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

    Hall effect sensors are crazy expensive. Sony has controllers with them and they’re more than twice as expensive as the normal ones. It’s very unlikely that Sony would set this insane price without a good reason.

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    • 30p87@feddit.org ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

      It’s very unlikely that Sony would set this insane price without a good reason.

      1000043595

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• sheogorath@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

  Don’t worry, we’ll find another part that’s going to be broken instead. TBH it already happened to my friend’s Gullikit controller, his shoulder and trigger buttons are already broken, but not his analog stick.

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