Comment on Divided and conquered

• Skullgrid@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Ok but that’s a reductive view of human beings. Average MAGA folks are uneducated and propagandized, but they aren’t evil and viewing them as such feeds into the culture war.

  wow, I guess you should tell them to stop being dicks instead of coming to leftwing spaces and telling us to hug the bullies.

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  • TheThrillOfTime@lemmy.ml ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Lol I’m a leftist. If you want to be productive, you can’t push everyone out. You have to find common ground. Our society is breaking. Communism has plenty to offer most MAGA people. They just need to see it.

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    • Skullgrid@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Lol I’m a leftist. If you want to be productive, you can’t push everyone out.

      I’m not pushing anyone out; I’m pushing OP (and you) to proselytize to the right wing and MAGA people.

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      • TheThrillOfTime@lemmy.ml ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        I’m trying. They are so close. Their whole brains are full of conspiracies of elites trying to destroy Western Civilization and they are so so close to class consciousness.

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    • finitebanjo@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      The only way out of this is to vote blue no matter who, but a lot of so-called communists would refuse the call, and that’s why we’re losing. We’re not only divided by left and right, the left itself is being intentionally splintered by bad actors. The left needs to come together, play politics, remove Republicans from office, and only then will real impactful progressive reform be possible.

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  • JustAnotherKay@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    That’s not what they’re saying at all. Go look into some of MLKs teachings. Kindness and being gentle, in duality with an aggressive force like Malcom X was at the time, is how we win this fight.

    There are those of us fighting the peaceful fight and those of us fighting the violent fight (Thank you Adjuster).

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  • RandomVideos@programming.dev ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Why do you think they became bullies?

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    • Skullgrid@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      I don’t care.

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• Womdat10@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  It is impossible for me to both have rights(one sides goal), and not have rights(the other sides goal)

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  • darthelmet@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    The point isn’t to cede ground and compromise with them. The point is to try to show them that they’ve been duped about who their enemies are. It might still take some time to deprogram them, but if we could at least get them to put that all on hold and focus on the class issue, maybe we can actually get somewhere instead of spinning in circles.

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    • Womdat10@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      I completely agree, what I was responding to was the person who said “we have to construct a vision of society that allows both succeed”

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• Empricorn@feddit.nl ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  they aren’t evil

  I don’t think they are all evil, but they vote for the evil politicians and evil policies that direct hate to the people they don’t understand. Every single time…

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  • Photuris@lemmy.ml ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Some are dumb, some are evil. Some are both, but none are neither.

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