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• notabot@lemm.ee ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Sure, compilers have come a long way since then and there is vanishingly little you’d write in assembler now-a-days, and you’d probably drive yourself mad trying to do so on anything more complex than a microprocessor.

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  • sunstoned@lemmus.org ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    No disrespect, but I love that folks from the UK always say “assembleuh” like they were on their way to saying “assembly” and got spooked halfway through

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• sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Yup. And our processors are a lot more powerful, so the tricks you’d do in assembly to eek out performance just don’t matter anymore.

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  • mbfalzar@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    I know it’s a typo but “eek out performance” has made me picture someone programming a little ghost to spook the rest of the code into running faster

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    • sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      I think it was a subconscious letter swap. :) I’ll keep it because ghosts.

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  • melpomenesclevage@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    uh, well, im running like fifty things at once on all my devices, and except for the OS, all of them were coded with this design philosophy. I can definitely tell.

    on a commercial device, with everything snitching on me to fifty different people at once, computing actually appears to slow down over time.

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    • sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      That’s not because of hand-written assembly vs compilers, that’s because everyone and their dog wants abstractions up the wazoo. You have frameworks on top of frameworks, and no compiler can efficiently sift through that nonsense.

      I’d really like to see a shift back toward compiled languages like Rust to cut through the bloat.

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      • melpomenesclevage@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        oh, no, I don’t think it’s the compilers’ fault, I think it’s the design philosophy of ‘fuck it, computers get faster, be a messy bitch, finish code fast.’ that’s fucking us.

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  • LodeMike@lemmy.today ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Yes that’s what I was referring to.

    It’s some sort of out of order execution and branch prediction that does it. The thing you’re usually waiting on the most is IO.

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• easily3667@lemmus.org ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  If you need to precisely know exactly how many instructions are running in a loop (ie super duper embedded)

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