Great news Mr eugenicist, no more than 60% of the population can make babies.
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shiftymccool@programming.dev 1 day ago
Is almost like rampant breeding without any environmental pressures causes a decline in the traits that evolved to deal with those pressures. AKA, Idiocracy has happened because we’re too soft to tell people to stop fucking. “Having babies is a Gawd-given right! You can’t take away muh freedums!” Most people shouldn’t be breeding, the species weeps when ~90% of us give birth.
optissima@lemmy.ml 1 day ago
starman2112@sh.itjust.works 1 day ago
Some say the number is even less than 50%
Ashelyn@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 day ago
Your eugenic sentiments aside, if you want people to have fewer babies, you don’t just tell them to stop fucking; you teach them how to use contraception and make it as accessible as possible.
JoeBigelow@lemmy.ca 1 day ago
But Idiocracy’s point still stands, the most poorly educated in that scenario will be the ones to reproduce the most.
I don’t think that there’s a compelling argument against population control as the future looms, how it is implemented is what I think is up for debate.
I strongly believe in personal freedom, but in an overpopulated world, I’m not certain that freedom should extend to reproduction.
Here’s where I get a little eugenic-y, and it feels icky, downvote if you must, but I’d prefer an intelligent reply. Why should a species, faced with the problem of overpopulation and gifted the power of sentience, not elevate it’s best and suppresses it’s worst? Maybe because I don’t feel a personal drive to have kids, my partner isn’t interested either, but it feels very selfish to think you personally have the right to add one more unregulated specimen to the petri dish.
Is it a huge turn away from what has made us human since forever? Yea, but wasn’t the Internet? Internal combustion engines? I don’t feel strongly enough about this to not be swayed in my ideas, but I just see it as a logical extension of a problem we face. What would Vulcans do?
starman2112@sh.itjust.works 1 day ago
For fucks sake dude, literally every time this sentiment comes up someone points it out: who decides who is the best and who is the worst? Your idea of who is worthy of reproducing and who isn’t is just as subjective as any nazi’s.
JoeBigelow@lemmy.ca 1 day ago
That’s a point that we AGREE upon. I feel like me saying it feels icky and acknowledging the awful history of eugenics was just ignored. This isn’t a global famine sized problem yet, but when it is, and this conversation is forced upon us, then what? If you agree that overpopulation is a looming problem, what solution do you propose?
nanoswarm9k@lemmus.org 1 day ago
people who have access to equitable righta and education (ie girls go to school, everyone has access to the economy and healthcare including sexual health) tend to self-regulate the population towards sustainable levels.
Stupidity is created through systemic sexism, dumbification, and reinforcement of poverty.
Baby booms happen when people don’t know how the world, including their bodies, work, and when uterus-havers are isolated and have control over their own life paths and bodies removed.
the usa before women had equitable banking, voting, education, healthcare, and employment access is a fine example – there are plenty around the world.
tl;dr overpopulation is an effect of discriminatory and oppressive environments and not a herreditary issue.
we are born to a bellcurve of smartness; just a lot of people get it starved and beaten out of them and are put on the prison pipeline before they can figure out what’s going on.
we’ve known this a long time but it’s hard to ‘sell’ to privledged people who didn’t have to think about it and don’t want to talk about reperations for redlining, boarding schools, etc… (good morning and welcome to the Blood Machine)
can anyone write a monster truck ad version of my comment that is readable at a 3rd grade level, pls?
also, it’s the power grip and reciprocity. that’s what makes us human.
JoeBigelow@lemmy.ca 1 day ago
It was good information until you decided to be a dick at the end. I was going to thank you for a decent response but actually fuck you for deciding that I need a 3rd grade monster truck ad to understand it. That sort of elitism is a big part of the reason the stupid half of the country fucking hates the educated half.