Comment on Trump revokes collective bargaining rights at TSA to crush union

Showroom7561@lemmy.ca ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

• DontTreadOnBigfoot@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Except the TSA has never shown to be remotely effective at doing any of that.

  I’m of the opinion that the TSA should probably be abolished, but keeping it while abusing its employees is the worst of both worlds…

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  • crusa187@lemmy.ml ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Worst jobs program ever, all you need is a good metal detector and that’s it. The security theater after 9/11 has been and always will be a joke.

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  • Showroom7561@lemmy.ca ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Except the TSA has never shown to be remotely effective at doing any of that.

    So, we’d all be OK if these 6,000+ loaded firearms PER YEAR were allowed to pass through unchecked?

    There’s always room for improvement, but the idea that everything needs to be abolished, rather than improved, seems crazy.

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    • catloaf@lemm.ee ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Considering the TSA frequently fails up to up to 95% of tests, I’m going to guess the number of uneventful loaded firearms on planes is much higher.

      web.archive.org/…/minneapolis-airport-tsa-fail

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      • Showroom7561@lemmy.ca ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        🫢 Like I said, room for improvement.

        But context matters:

        However, this doesn’t necessarily mean that airport security misses 95 percent of threats that pass through: The TSA red team is specially trained to detect weaknesses in security at airports throughout the nation.

        So your run of the mill bad guy isn’t going to sneak by so easily. And one can only imagine that most bad guys aren’t some elite team of security experts… Unless they are in a Hollywood movie.

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  • AdamEatsAss@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    There is no way to quantify the number of attacks that would have happened without the TSA. “an ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure”.

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    • orcrist@lemm.ee ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Oh, my friend, of course we can quantify it. There was a time when TSA didn’t exist. And of course many other countries don’t have TSA.

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  • brucethemoose@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Bust data must be classified. I bet Congress has access to it, no?

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    • 4_degrees@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      TSA has nothing to do with customs, who do an actual important job as you note. TSA is strictly domestic “security”

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      • brucethemoose@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        Ah yeah I mixed that up.

        People are kinda crazy though. It doesn’t have to be so extreme, but I think a deterrent against some poor soul bringing their family gun on board is a good idea.

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• orcrist@lemm.ee ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  TSA is worthless, my friend. Nobody should support their agency. Fire them all, please. I do, however, support workers unionizing and striking, and if that is TSA employees, high five.

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