Not the only source, or a primary source, but the most comprehensive I’ve found so far. How Israel killed hundreds of its own people on 7 October
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Estebiu@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 days agoI don’t remember where I read that Israel used the Hannibal directive on october 7. Still, I don’t think Hamas is that bad. They fight for they country that’s being invaded. Everyone’s pro ukraine, but not pro palestine, why’s that?
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possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 2 days ago
Palestine is not Hamas. Hamas is a terrorist organization that’s calling for Tue extermination of all Jews. Palestine is pretty innocent as far as I can tell.
LifeInMultipleChoice@lemmy.world 2 days ago
The Hannibal directive was used by Israel to intentionally target and kill any Israeli prisoners being taken on Oct. 7. Israel has come out and said it. The attack was horrible, but every action by Israel was about wiping Gaza off the map. They were just looking for “acceptable” ways to accomplish it. As for torturing people, many Palestinians who were not part of Hamas were held and tortured. The people who returned to Israel all seem to be saying they weren’t tortured and were mostly bored sitting around waiting. It very much seems like a situation where a group was marginalized, constantly poked and proded, and then when someone responds they use it as reason to invoke further marginalization. Over and over until a “terrorist” organization was formed. Without such treatment, Hamas would have had no reason to exist. Zionism appears to have caused the entire issue.
possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 2 days ago
Hamas murdered innocent Israelis. I’m not saying that Israel is the good guy here as clearly they have murdered and tortured. The think to keep in mind is that Hamas also killed innocent people. People lost loved ones on both sides and I think it is important to remember that murder is not ok. Israel may of killed far more people but that doesn’t mean that Hamas isn’t also guilty of murder. It is quite sad that people are taking thousands of human lives and putting them on some sort of scale. Everyone of those lost was a value human being and there will be people who are left with out a loved one. Doing comparisons of numbers overlooks the brutality of senseless killing.
BrainInABox@lemmy.ml 2 days ago
ANC murdered innocent South Africans, WW2 resistance groups murdered innocent Germans. To hell with you and your both sides bullshit that favours oppressors.
zarkanian@sh.itjust.works 1 day ago
How is a small child a threat?
Estebiu@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 days ago
Idk, it seems to me that all that “hamas killed innocent people” it’s just zionist propaganga, like the 40 babies decapitated ecc. If they’re lying about this, who’s to say they aren’t lying about everything else? I tend to try to ignore things that seems propaganda online
Bloomcole@lemmy.world 1 day ago
But but the zionist “found” a Hamas plan on one of them “written in Enlish LOL” explaining their devlish plans.
To this day ZERO proof of rapes or decapitating babies.
Unlike the Palestinians who get tortured and raped en masse by these monsters.
BrainInABox@lemmy.ml 2 days ago
This is a lie on par with “Ukraine is controlled by Nazis”.
Damn, crazy how Israeli citizens are “murdered and tortures by Hamas soldiers who went into Israel”, while Palestinian citizens merely “get caught in the middle”
Fucking disgusting use of two faced rhetoric.
Bloomcole@lemmy.world 1 day ago
Ukraine has a massive nazi problem that has been swept under the carpet.
Before zelenski they certainly were controled by them and they still are a powerful force. They laughed in his face in 2019 when he talked to them about ending the war.
(I mean the war against the east that didn’t want to live under the fascists after their violent coup. But like the zionist do it’s perfectly fine to ignore this and say the violence started when evil Russia attacked ukraine for no reason, the ukranian oct 7). When Zelenski fired Zalushni he posted this as a veiled threat.
The Banderites said they would hang Zelenski if he would start negotiating.
If there would be elections now one of the extreme right would become president (again)
SplashJackson@lemmy.ca 1 day ago
If Hamas isn’t Palestine then why is the IDF Isreal? Or whatever the fuck their ruling party is called