Comment on Bluesky

inv3r5ion@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

• samus12345@lemm.ee ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Is it? I thought it was just an imitation of Twitter. In what way does it even pretend to be federated?

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  • Genius@lemmy.zip ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    You can spin up your own Bluesky instance

    …which is still managed by the Bluesky central server and can’t connect to peer instances without that server.

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    • PeriodicallyPedantic@lemmy.ca ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      That’s not quite true afact.

      There are 3 types of servers:

      1. Personal data server (actually hosts your post)
      2. Relay (aggregates posts from all PDSs, responsible for federation of PDSs)
      3. App views (generates feeds from the relay)

      Bluesky hosts the only relay I’m aware of, because relays are very expensive to host. But afaict anyone can host a relay.

      So if we’re to describe it:
      PDSs are nations states
      Relays are the federation of those nation states App views are like the ambassadors of the federation.

      Except that PDSs can be part of multiple federations, and app views can be ambassadors for multiple federations. Ok not a great analogy.

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      • Genius@lemmy.zip ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        Can two relays communicate with each other?

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    • samus12345@lemm.ee ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Ah, okay, didn’t know that.

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  • scoobford@lemmy.zip ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    How else would you pretend to be federated besides saying you’re federated when you aren’t?

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    • Karl@programming.dev ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      I’m a little dumb as to these things, what does federated mean ?

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      • zalgotext@sh.itjust.works ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        So, non-federated means one company/organization has full control over some product/service/website (like Twitter, Reddit, etc).

        Federated means that individuals can independently run instances of some product/service/website, and all those instances can talk to one another and share/sync data (Mastodon, Lemmy, etc).

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      • scoobford@lemmy.zip ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        Federation means that instead of one central server like Facebook or google, the service relies on several interoperable servers and you can pick which one you want to sign up with and use.

        Email and lemmy are federated. If you want to use email, you can sign up for an account on one of many different servers run by other people or you can even host your own email server. No matter which you choose, you can always email another user regardless of where their account it.

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    • samus12345@lemm.ee ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Where did they say that? I’m not claiming they didn’t, I just haven’t heard about it.

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  • inv3r5ion@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    The tech stuff is above my pay grade but essentially my understanding is the code is open source and one could start their own server on the platform theoretically but no one does

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