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• cedarmesa@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Also how do you verify the age of what is essentially a cartoon character? Like if the csam is an obvious toddler thats one thing. I saw an ai pic on here a while back and was like, looks a lil young, borderline, cant really tell. Who gets to decide what is and isnt csam? Certainly our illustrious police in america wouldnt selectively arrest folks based on prejudice. I see potential for a new “we smelled weed in your car” with devastating consequences.

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  • Delphia@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Thats exactly my point. Sure the courts may rule in your favor eventually but you just got marched out of work in handcuffs for possession of CSAM, your entire personal and professional circle knows and any explanation you offer is going to sound like total bullshit.

    “It was an AI generated image, and it was an elf! She just looked young, but not like illegal young! Guys you have to believe me!”

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    • CeruleanRuin@lemmings.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      As if I needed another reason to never watch anime.

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  • CeruleanRuin@lemmings.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Won’t somebody think of the weebs!

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    • Delphia@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Was it the waifu seat covers? The vinyl wrap? The bumper stickers? What gave it away?

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• Candelestine@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  It’s not congress’ job to make perfect laws, that’d be even less efficient than the one we have now. The interpretation and “fine-tuning” of law is the job of courts, and is literally handled case-by-case and in the hands of judges and literal armies of lawyers every year.

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  • Delphia@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Ok, when someone gets arrested for possession of CSAM because someone decided those pixels looked a little young and their entire life comes crashing down around their ears, the arrest makes the papers and its forever out there. I’m sure they wont mind at all because after they had to financially ruin themselves to beat the charges in court they were found innocent.

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    The law gets written well by people that we the people pay to do their job and write the laws.

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    • Candelestine@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Except everyone handwaves away the whole “written well” or “carefully written” part, because there’s no actual good place to draw that line. Which is why you and nobody else can think of one. It will always be eventually up to some judges/juries subjective interpretations, regardless of what line you gave them to work with.

      So, they’re just going to ban it all. They do not consider digital art collections to be of very great importance, they’re more interested in things that involve lots and lots of money, generally. Or things that can be used to stoke fear, so they can come in and get a legislative notch on their belt “saving the day” with some half cocked fix.

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      • CeruleanRuin@lemmings.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        Just to get it straight, by “digital art collections” are you talking about that folder of anime girls on your computer?

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• FuglyDuck@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  “Depicting clearly underage subject matter if it were a person or using prompts to generate someone who clearly appears under aged” simply because someone could be marked for life for typing in “naked elf” and the program spits out something with small boobs and childlike features and not having their HD shredded immediately.

  Has that ever happened though? I don’t think it happens as much as people imagine it does. This is an issue with any CP, not just ai generated stuff.

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  • BlueEther@no.lastname.nz ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Well, yes it has: stuff.co.nz/…/Man-sent-to-jail-for-watching-pixie…

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    • FuglyDuck@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      So…. 1) they were obviously child like.

      However, while the cartoon characters were elves and pixies, they were also clearly young elves and pixies, which led to concerns the images were linked to child sexual abuse.

      2. he didn’t just view it, he downloaded it and kept it in a spank bank for 3 years.

      Ronald Clark downloaded the Japanese anime cartoons three years ago, setting in train events that would see him in court in Auckland and jailed for three months for possessing objectionable material

      3. he had prior convictions for sexually assaulting a 12 year old boy- and I’m guessing there’s parole agreements to not have CP material.

      Clark has previous convictions for indecently assaulting a teenage boy and has been through rehabilitation programmes, but the video nasties he was watching in this case were all cartoons and drawings.

      4. it was for the artistic merit! Uh huh. I watch porn for the story too! /s

      Clark admitted he was interested in the images but he said it was for their artistic merit and as “a bit of a laugh”. He did not find them sexually arousing, he said.

      I think it’s safe to say he didn’t get convicted for simply viewing a search result. So I stand by what I said: it doesn’t happen as often as people think it does. Even if you come down on one side… that’s one instance in a global world.

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