Comment on brain blowing orgasms

• SkaveRat@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

  I mean, yes, but if you’re not a vegetable afterwards, you will have more chances to reproduce. Therefore passing on your genes more

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  • Transtronaut@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    Evolution doesn’t make deliberate, strategic choices. Random mutations result in new behaviors/properties that may or may not be beneficial, and selection removes those mutations that prevent reproduction from the gene pool. Not every mutation will be beneficial, but as long as it’s not harmful enough to stop reproduction, it can persist.

    If there were two groups of octopuses, one with the self-destructive behavior and one without, then there would be pressure from competition. In that situation, your point would have more of an impact. But without that pressure, there’s nothing to drive the selection. And the mutation won’t occur just because it would be helpful for it to do so - it’s random.

    At least, that’s how I understand it. I’m not a biologist or anything.

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    • SkaveRat@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      yes, that’s the point I’m trying to reinforce. There has to be “a reason” that getting stupider after mating is a succesful trait, otherwise it wouldn’t be there.

      The question that was asked was: what is the reason? So far I’ve only seen speculation in this thread

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      • Krik@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

        As was said before: The genes are already passed onto the next generation. It doesn’t matter if the parents become stupid now. There’s no evolutionary advantage to become more or less stupid at this point.

        It became like it is now by some random chance(s).

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      • Habahnow@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

        There doesn’t have to be reason for it to help, all that matters is that there isnt a sufficient enough of am evolutionary hinderance to prevent reproduction. The octopi reproduced, so their traits pass on.

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      • Mothra@mander.xyz ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

        Thank you, so far you’re the only one addressing my question. The answer could very well be that it’s a spandrel, but just like you said it would be speculation like anything else- nobody here daring to say “nobody in the scientific community has a solid theory, we don’t know for sure”

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  • Quill7513@slrpnk.net ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    yeah but octopi are intensely successful hunters. this may be either a mechanism that helps prevent resource scarcity, or it could prevent parent/offspring mating

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    • deo@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      They also lay tens of thousands of eggs at once.

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• psud@aussie.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

  Take that point and explain humans living to about 100 after breeding from 20 to 40

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