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sic_semper_tyrannis@lemmy.today ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

• pipariturbiini@sopuli.xyz ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

  I’m all for competition and against forced DRM. But the PC gaming service ʀᴇᴅᴀᴄᴛᴇᴅ that you’re referring to offers genuinely good services on top of just accessing games - social platform, (voice) chat, remote play (together), streaming video to friends, communities, easy access to mods, linux support, makes multiplayer easy, etc…

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  • sic_semper_tyrannis@lemmy.today ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    So are most services and then at some point do some type of rug pull with BS EULA changes, etc. that change the functionality of what you’re using. This is prevailant in everything now a days. I’d say with Steam the writing is on the walls. They have so much power in the PC gaming market (like with the examples you gave) it’s only a matter of time.

    I do see how useful and user friendly those services you mentioned are

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• JokeDeity@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

  I can’t fathom how anyone has an issue with Steam, they’re one of the only straight shooters in the game.

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  • Don_alForno@feddit.org ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    Until the day after Gabe kicks the bucket.

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  • sic_semper_tyrannis@lemmy.today ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    Read their EULA, you license your “purchase”. You don’t own your games. Steam also injects their own DRM onto the vast majority of games.

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    • crusty@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      Do any stores say you own the games? I feel like this isn’t a Steam specific thing

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      • sic_semper_tyrannis@lemmy.today ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

        GOG has no DRM. Once purchased you can download the files and own it. You could even write your games to CDs if you wanted and play like the old days.

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    • DiabolicalBird@lemmy.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      The vast majority of digital purchases are licenses, this isn’t something new or unique to Steam. Digital purchases where you actually own the product are more the exception than the rule.

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      • Kolanaki@pawb.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

        Even when you were buying games on physical media, you didn’t own the software itself. You just owned a disc with the software on it.

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      • sic_semper_tyrannis@lemmy.today ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

        Then let’s support the good companies to make it the rule and not exception. The market won’t change until the consumer tells them what’s important

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• blackris@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

  Yeah, fuck Epic!

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  • sic_semper_tyrannis@lemmy.today ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    I was thinking Steam but Epic, EA, Ubisoft; they’re all riddled with crap

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• RogueBanana@lemmy.zip ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

  So what do you suggest? Gog is not a contender for me unless they add equivalent regional pricing (in my region), payment options, Linux support (proton), mod workshop, easy multiplayer connectivity, community pages like guides, friend list with messaging and voice chat, etc. Would love to get things on gog but the only thing it has going is DRM free and a ton more negatives. If steam were to rug pull or whatever then I would just go back to the seas.

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  • sic_semper_tyrannis@lemmy.today ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    That’s unfortunate to hear. I doubt anything will compete with Steam with all the things you want. People need to choose to put value where it really matters and have some inconveniences. Pirating certainly won’t get you what you want. Supporting DRM free services (and the games devs) will do more good. You could download your GoG games through the Heroic launcher and it’ll use wine proton (or whatever it’s called). Also Nexus mods has a new mod manager that’ll work on Linux but it’s only in alpha stage currently.

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    • RogueBanana@lemmy.zip ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      I don’t mind the lack of launcher too much as I already use heroic and have a couple of free gog and epic games there. The biggest blocker for me rn is the payment options and not so great regional pricing compared to steam. It seems to have improved but still not enough so maybe they it will get better in a couple years.

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