the new administration has banned the use of homological words so be careful.
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Enkers@sh.itjust.works 1 month ago
There’s actually a whole class of these words. They’re called heterological words.
Their opposite, autological (or homological) words are words that do describe themselves. Autological is an autological word because it describes itself.
Here’s a fun question, though: is “heterological” a heterological word? If you say yes, then that means it does not describe itself and therefore it is not heterological. If you say no, then it does describe itself therefore it is heterological. Bit of a head scratcher.
This is the Grelling-Nelson paradox.
pyre@lemmy.world 1 month ago
Quicky@lemmy.world 1 month ago
I used to be really interested in paradoxes, but I decided in my old age that they’re all just bloody annoying and pointless. 99% of paradoxes are just linguistics. All these philosophers who spent their lives debating them are infuriating bastards. “Oh you’ve come up with another unsolvable word puzzle have you? Well that’s language for you - an abstraction developed by the fallible. Congratulations mate, great use of everyone’s time.”
Enkers@sh.itjust.works 1 month ago
OK, Grandpa, back to bed. j/k j/k :)
We have multiple industries (movie/tv/gaming/sports) whose main focus is “wasting” time. Finding some enjoyment in linguistics and logic certainly isn’t any more of a waste.
Quicky@lemmy.world 1 month ago
Haha I’m just being dismissive, but greater minds than mine have made the same point.
I read something a while back about Ludwig Wittgenstein (in a YouTube comment of all places). He basically said “It turns out that Philosophy, my entire life’s work, is just a language game and, in the end just like a game, it can be fun and challenging, but ultimately meaningless.” Everyone disagreed then immediately went back to playing their own games, trying to prove him wrong by proving him right.
RandomVideos@programming.dev 1 month ago
Why is autological an autological word?
blujan@sopuli.xyz 1 month ago
Because it refers to itself, it’s like the trivial case
RandomVideos@programming.dev 1 month ago
How does it refer to itself?
It would need to already have been referring to itself to refer to itself
blujan@sopuli.xyz 1 month ago
I think you’re right, it made sense earlier but not anymore
Enkers@sh.itjust.works 1 month ago
I think you’re right. There’s a bit of an infinite regress problem, isn’t there?
ewigkaiwelo@lemmy.world 1 month ago
Isn’t there a mistake in your first statement about the word heterological? If I say yes the word heterological is heterological it means that it doesn’t fall into the class of words that it describes and so it is heterological, because as you’ve defined heterological words do not describe themselves
Here’s a fun question, though: is “heterological” a heterological word? If you say yes, then that means it does not describe itself and therefore it is not heterological.
Enkers@sh.itjust.works 1 month ago
You’re correct. I had an extra not in there! Good catch.
Amanduh@lemm.ee 1 month ago
That’s how you know it’s a real head scratcher
ewigkaiwelo@lemmy.world 1 month ago
I was actually referring to the other “not” that was at the end, but it only shows why it is paradoxical and how confusing nature of predication is in languages, as in this question appears to be a case of Russell’s paradox of sets
Enkers@sh.itjust.works 1 month ago
Just a good reason not to dabble in paradoxes before you’ve had some coffee. lol
jaybone@lemmy.world 1 month ago
You’re the substitute teacher who wouldn’t let us play Heads Up Seven Up.
sp3tr4l@lemmy.zip 1 month ago
My favorite homological word:
Sesquipedalian:
An unnecessarily long word, or a person who uses unnecessarily long words.
Sesquipedalian is a sesquipedalian word.
Enkers@sh.itjust.works 1 month ago
Oooh, that’s a good one! Its use also makes its user described by itself. Neat!