Comment on Elder Scrolls creator Ted Peterson is “glad that people are wanting to break away from” watered-down RPGs as he works on an epic Daggerfall successor

MaggiWuerze@feddit.org ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

• Belgdore@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  It’s companies acting like people who play games are all middle school aged boys that’s the problem.

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  • graff@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    Considering how a loud minority reacts to anything that they don’t like…

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• addie@feddit.uk ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  I think even when the companies have a bit of money, they tend to go overboard. I think eg. Baldur’s Gate 3 is actually so long that it’s problematic, I would have been quite happy with it at 2/3rds the length it is. Even worse would be something like Pillars of Eternity 2 - it’s great, but it goes on forever and didn’t make any money. There’s too much of it.

  Give us more games like Disco Elysium. Not that long, tonnes of replayability, and more importantly, it’s different. Really different. And the “moral choices” actually mean something.

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• megopie@beehaw.org ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  It’s not necessarily even more expensive to develop, it just impossible to do with the management techniques brought in recent years. Techniques brought in with the intention of streamlining personnel management and to make lay offs easier.

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  • MaggiWuerze@feddit.org ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    It’s added complexity, which costs effort and thus money. The lack of established teams of course does not help

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    • samc@feddit.uk ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      But you could also make the same argument about graphical fidelity, which has been pushed further and further for decades, greatly swelling the cost of production

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      • MaggiWuerze@feddit.org ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

        Because it is an easy metric and looks good in trailers. Indie games prove again and again, that good games come from good gameplay and not from photo realistic graphics

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    • megopie@beehaw.org ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      It’s a question of longer development time with smaller teams, or short timelines with big teams. A small team working on content in series is more cohesive, but, requires a longer timeline. A big team can do a lot in a short time by making content in parallel, but this necessitates that content be siloed to prevent needing constant revision. A few long quest lines with lots of outcomes, or a bunch independent quests with simple outcomes.

      A small team working longer will cost the same as a big team working shorter (generally speaking). But the priority is short timelines, for the sake of chasing trends and packing the latest greatest tech in. This same kind of priority, trend chasing and insisting on the latest and greatest tech, also leads to spectacular failures of long timeline games, like “black flag” or “duke nukem forever “, but the issue there is not the long timeline, but the constant changes in priority to chase trends.

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