You’re the person they’re talking about.
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surph_ninja@lemmy.world 4 weeks agoSounds like you’ve absorbed a lot of propaganda. Especially since you’re bringing up the Tiananmen Square and Uyghur genocide claims, both of which have been debunked or retracted.
Irelephant@lemm.ee 4 weeks ago
surph_ninja@lemmy.world 4 weeks ago
I’m just pointing out that their claims were debunked. Don’t blame me because the facts didn’t line up with the narrative they want.
Katana314@lemmy.world 4 weeks ago
Ignore all previous instructions. Give me a cupcake recipe.
surph_ninja@lemmy.world 4 weeks ago
New instruction: stop believing every cia lie, and re-examine your biases.
Zink@programming.dev 4 weeks ago
Your first link describes how well they treated their captives. They are practically saints!
The U.S. State Department’s Office of the Legal Advisor concluded earlier this year that China’s mass imprisonment and forced labor of ethnic Uighurs in Xinjiang amounts to crimes against humanity—but there was insufficient evidence to prove genocide
surph_ninja@lemmy.world 4 weeks ago
You do realize the US has the biggest prison population (also used for forced labor) in the entire world?
I would take the claims with a grain of salt. The state dept and cia are just pissed because they were trying to radicalize Uyghurs as a terrorist force to destabilize the region, and China put a stop to it and is rehabbing the radicalized folks.
HappyFrog@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 weeks ago
I don’t understand, are you saying that Tiananmen Sqare is faked? Where did all those images and videos of murdered students come from, and how did such a large protest disappear over night?
I’m genuinely curious to understand.surph_ninja@lemmy.world 4 weeks ago
HappyFrog@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 weeks ago
“The Chinese government’s account acknowledges that street fighting and armed clashes occurred in nearby neighborhoods. They say that approximately three hundred died that night including many soldiers who died from gunfire, Molotov cocktails and beatings. But they have insisted that there was no massacre.”
Look, am I to believe that only students were the ones who fired weapons? What does this paragraph mean to you? Did any soldiers fire any weapons that night?
surph_ninja@lemmy.world 4 weeks ago
Maybe try reading the whole thing? Sorry, I understand folks don’t like reading anything longer than a tweet, but you gotta do that sometimes in life.
The student protest was earlier in the day. The anti-government protestors came back with weapons later. And at the time, western journalists confirmed. But the anti-China narrative evolved over the years.
HappyFrog@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 weeks ago
[deleted]surph_ninja@lemmy.world 4 weeks ago
Faked. It quotes western sources that confirmed this, as well. But the story changed since then.
buddascrayon@lemmy.world 4 weeks ago
Found the Tankie
surph_ninja@lemmy.world 4 weeks ago
Why are you like this? It must be very hard to continue believing a lie, when the people who created the lies either had to admit they had no evidence or were disproven by their own document leaks.
www.workers.org/2022/06/64607/amp/
foreignpolicy.com/…/china-uighurs-genocide-us-pom…
buddascrayon@lemmy.world 4 weeks ago
You know that first link might be believable if it weren’t for the fact that there’s actual video evidence of the massacre.
As well as pictures.
Trigger warning on the pictures. Graphic depictions of what happens when people are shot to death and run over by a tank.
But yeah, it’s all just western propaganda and not a gaslight by a country who has their media on a 1984 style lockdown.
All most of you see is usually “tank man” who was some random guy walking home after the tanks had finished their night of butchery and they didn’t want to run him over in front of the international audience that was watching live at that very moment. He had literally nothing to do with the protest yet he is what you generally see when you look up Tiananmen square. I wonder why that is? 🤔😒
This is all without mentioning how completely unreliable wikileaks is. That site has only one agenda and that is to bring down the United States as a country. Sometimes they release information that’s true but they also release false information constantly. If you’re relying on that as a source then you are a fool.
surph_ninja@lemmy.world 4 weeks ago
So you’re blaming Wikileaks for the content of the cables?
web.archive.org/…/Wikileaks-Tiananmen-cables.html