Comment on Don't forget where we came from and what shaped us as a species. The Jungle.

• Carnelian@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  That misses the question a bit, no? Everything that is wrong to do is a personal choice. It’s not relevant to whether or not it should be done

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  • Soulg@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    Not really, some things are objectively bad and wrong and other things are merely subjective.

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    • toomanypancakes@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      Killing someone who’s done nothing to you and doesn’t want to die is pretty objectively bad.

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      • Soulg@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

        Yes, killing other people is objectively bad. Thank you for agreeing with me.

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      • remon@ani.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

        Could you tell me how you measured that badness and how I can repeat the experiment?

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    • JackGreenEarth@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      What is the ‘objective’ source of your morality?

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      • Soulg@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

        There is none. It’s just my view based on how people see things. You’re allowed to not agree, it doesn’t have to be combative.

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    • Jumuta@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      even things like killing being bad is not objective in my opinion, it just simply stems from our minds and societies’ process of growth through natural selection.

      We believe that killing is bad only because we share the majority of their DNA and we are close genetically to what we’re killing. It was evolutionarily incentivised to not kill those that are genetically close, as they and we share common ancestors from which such thoughts evolved.

      this is imo why we value humans more than other animals, animals more than vegetables and relatives over strangers. Friends being valued more than strangers make sense as well, as they share ideas in the place of the shared genome.

      in a wider scope none of this matters anyway, our lives and deaths are irrelevant to the universe and our lives don’t actually matter outside what our minds tell us.

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• starman2112@sh.itjust.works ⁨11⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  See this is what I told people when they found out I had sex with my dog, and they said I was crazy and abusive! Like, it’s my own choice!

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  • starman2112@sh.itjust.works ⁨11⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    >inb4 some child left behind replies with “are you equating eating meat for sustenance with rape?”

    Yes. You could eat something else for sustenance. The reason you choose meat is because it’s a more enjoyable experience for you, despite the inherent harm. That sounds similar to another topic I mentioned in this comment

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• RobotZap10000@feddit.nl ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  Are the animals also allowed a choice in the matter?

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