Comment on Looks like Horizon's unannounced MMO has been quietly cancelled

• False@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

  As someone who played a lot of Warcraft 3 and really enjoyed the campaign before wow was announced, I was not pleased with the MMO announcement.

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  • dogslayeggs@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

    Real question: after WoW had been around for a year or so, were you still unhappy about it? I never played any of the Warcraft games before WoW and had never played any MMOs before Wow, so I had no feeling either way about the announcement. I started playing WoW because two of my close friends and two of my coworkers were playing a bunch, so it was a good way to have more gaming friends than just my one gaming friend. Were most WC3 players unhappy about the announcement? It’s clear that millions of people ended up being pretty happy about it in the end.

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    • False@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

      After WoW had been around for a year or so, were you still unhappy about it?

      Nah, I enjoyed WoW well enough for what it is. When WoW was announced there was a lot of skepticism on whether or not a company that was primarily known for their RTS games could make an MMO, along with a decent amount of “Who asked for this”. In hindsight I’m also a bit bitter that we never got and never will get Warcraft 4 though. To some degree Blizzard basically stopped developing games for a few years due to WoW’s success consuming the company.

      Were most WC3 players unhappy about the announcement?

      I think most of them would have preferred another RTS game.

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    • MolochAlter@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

      Not OP but yeah.

      Still am, to a point, because thanks to WoW we never got Warcraft 4.

      And arguably chasing the WoW demographic also made DND 4th edition suck balls but that may be just the old grognard in me.

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      • Passerby6497@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

        Nah, my gaming group talked the same shit about 4e. We went back to 3.5 a bit and a ton of GURPS before the group disbanded.

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• illi@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

  Point was Warcraft was primarily single player RTS. Yes, with multiplayer mode but MMORPG is pretty big genre shift. In the end, it’s just about using the IP, nothing more.

  You gave examples of games that tried something like this that failed, I just pointed out an example where it was quite successful.

  We will never know if the Horizon MMO would be good or bad. I think the IP would fit MMO genre quite well tbh.

  The real issue with live service game failiures is that studios design cash grabs, not games they would want to play.

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  • lobut@lemmy.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

    Oh, I didn’t mean this-therefore-that … I was trying to say that these two games in my experience having enjoyed the single-player, I think would have failed in the multiplayer realm as the desire doesn’t seem to be there. I’m certain there are examples in the opposite direction.

    The IP “could” make sense as the gameplay goes for a very fetch questy type of mechanic and the land is vast and they could expand the lore.

    I was just assuming (out of my ass) that these successful single-player story driven games are “forced” to do multiplayer games for cash grabs.

    Albeit Blizzard did it for WarCraft, but I always saw Blizzard differently in this regard as it seemed like they had (very much past tense) the desire to do so.

    Once again, all assumptions.

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    • Zorque@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

      Quality isn’t necessarily measured by desire. One can enjoy something they never desired before it existed. And one can loathe something they always desired before it was made, see the Warcraft movie (for me, at least).

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    • illi@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

      Might have been a cash grab - in fact it likely was. But I tend to reserve my judgement. I’m not on the live service hate train - in fact I’m often interested in what they might have on offer. I like to have a main game, and live service games are great for people like me as there is always something to look forward to. And I for one fucking hate the constant cach grab fails.

      People always hate on live service games just because of the label, but there is serious lack of good live service games compared to good single player games.

      My comment migh’ve come partyl from a place of frustration so apologies if I was harsh or something

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      • lobut@lemmy.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

        lol no worries, my comment came off as arrogant so it’d be deserved. Reserving judgment is good and something I some practice more as well.

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• ampersandrew@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

  It’s an open world game that takes a lot of inspiration from Monster Hunter. An MMO isn’t a huge stretch of the imagination.

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  • lobut@lemmy.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

    Yeah you’re absolutely right in terms of concept. I mean if you dig into my example, Suicide Squad could have been a good live-action shooter as well. Marvel Rivals is cooking right now.

    I think my initial impression was switching a single-player studio over, but I lost that message in my reply. I also think it could be fun to take down mechs together as a team.

    Just pulling it out of my ass, I didn’t think I see the appetite and if it’s not there then we could be left with a lackluster game.

    I’m a big Horizon fan. Although I need to try Monster Hunter, my friends love it.

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