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You’re actually a Boltzmann brain that just randomly popped into existence thinking all your past interactions were real.
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Submitted 10 months ago by Grogon@lemmy.world to [deleted]
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bjoern_tantau@swg-empire.de 10 months ago
AmidFuror@kbin.social 10 months ago
What's the point of me trying to prove something to a figment of my imagination? Nice try, brain image. You almost had me.
nutsack@lemmy.world 10 months ago
The whole point of philosophy is to talk about things that you can’t prove
racsol@lemmy.ml 10 months ago
You’re looking for counter-arguments for Solipsism. Wikipedia’s definition:
Solipsism is the philosophical idea that only one’s mind is sure to exist.
Further reading: [iep.utm.edu/solipsis/](Solipsism and the Problem of Other Minds)
Thread with some counter-arguments: https://philosophy.stackexchange.com/questions/89321/what-are-the-best-arguments-against-solipsism
The one I personally chose for myself is the pragmatic one: Believing reality is a fantasy doesn’t actually changes your experience of it.
recapitated@lemmy.world 10 months ago
Your mind is hallucinating all of your experiences based on verbatim inputs from your senses. We’re real together, we’re operating separate flesh machines which are operating separate Internet machines to talk.
It’s pretty cool actually
Firipu@startrek.website 10 months ago
Considering how lazy I am, there is no way my brain would bother with all the little details I see everywhere when I go out. When I’m at a busy station or crossing and I literally see thousands of different people walk by, not a single repeat face? Proof enough for me this is real tbh.
(and if you go the simulation way, who cares? If a simulation can give billions of ppl their own lives, feelings, dreams and hopes, it does not matter in the slightest to the ppl living in it that it’s real or a simulation)
Kolanaki@yiffit.net 10 months ago
I mean… Your brain is just making shit up.
Color? It’s the brain interpreting the visible wavelengths of light. Maybe what you see for red isn’t the same as anyone else. Maybe the difference between high and low pitched sounds, sound different to each individual because the experience of hearing a sound is, again, just the brain’s interpretation of data.
The data can be the same for everyone, and the experience can be totally different because the brain interprets that data differently for each person. It certainly would explain why some people like subjective things and others do not; such as colors, music, flavors, etc.
Pounddc1@lemm.ee 10 months ago
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sharkfucker420@lemmy.ml 10 months ago
Reality can be subjective. What’s it matter if it’s all in your head? You are still experiencing it no? There is no way to prove that anything actually truly exist other than your own consciousness maybe. What matters is that it is real to you.
In all honesty it sounds like you’re struggling with disassociation which is treatable through therapy. I don’t know a lot about it but there is plenty of information online I’m sure
FelipeFelop@discuss.online 10 months ago
scientificamerican.com/…/how-do-i-know-im-not-the…
It’s impossible to prove that anyone else or anything else exists. It’s also impossible to know whether my brain is deceiving me.
paddirn@lemmy.world 10 months ago
You can’t really disprove it, since any evidence you get can be attributed to your brain just faking it. Even if you were to just wear a blindfold and stumble around experiencing the world without seeing any visual illusions, how would you know your brain wasn’t creating the illusion of sounds and solid objects too? Any scientific tests similarly could be tainted by your brain creating the results.
You have to ask yourself, “Why?” To what end would your brain be creating all this just for you? How is it that you, out of every other person or animal on Earth, is the only one with real thoughts and emotions? Why create this world, out of all possible worlds, why this one specifically? Why would You create a world filled with so much pain, sorrow, injustice, and inequality? Why would You do that? Just to pass the time?
If the bad stuff isn’t even real, then it shouldn’t matter anyways, but if nothing matters why wouldn’t your brain just create a happy, pleasant world in the first place? Why not just create a world of infinite pleasure, since I’m sure it would take the brain just as much effort to create heaven as hell? Why would your brain trick you into seeing a world with as many flaws as we have? Are you the God who made this shitty world?
To me, I think I’m another ‘living person’, that’s extremely unlikely. The more likely scenario is that I am one living thing amongst many and that we’re all struggling to make our way through this life as best we can. It’s a struggle for resources which can lead to pain and sorrow intentionally and unintentionally. What matters is helping others where you can and finding whatever pleasure and meaning you’re able to during our short time here.
mononomi@feddit.nl 10 months ago
The philosophical question you’re raising is known as solipsism, which is the idea that one can only be sure of the existence of their own mind and not of anything external to it. While it’s an interesting concept to explore, proving the absolute reality of the external world can be challenging.
Philosophers have debated these questions for centuries, and there isn’t a definitive answer. However, there are some common responses and arguments:
Pragmatism: While you might not be able to prove the absolute reality of the external world, it is generally more practical and beneficial to assume its existence. The way we navigate and interact with the world is based on the assumption that it is real.
Consensus Reality: The fact that multiple people can agree on the existence of certain things suggests a shared reality. If others can perceive and interact with the same objects or events as you do, it adds weight to the argument that there is an external reality.
Scientific Method: Science provides a systematic way of understanding the world through observation, experimentation, and verification. While it may not provide absolute certainty, the scientific method has proven to be a reliable way to gain knowledge about the external world.
Testability: While you may question the authenticity of your perceptions, you can still make predictions and test them against your experiences. For example, if you drop an object, you can predict that it will fall, and when it does, it provides some validation of the external reality.
Regarding your doubt about whether people are real or if the responses are from AI, the same principles can apply. If there is consistency in responses, coherence in conversations, and a shared understanding among users, it adds credibility to the reality of the interaction.
It’s important to note that these responses don’t necessarily provide absolute certainty but offer practical and reasonable ways to engage with the external world. The nature of reality is a complex and debated topic in philosophy, and there may never be a conclusive answer.
mononomi@feddit.nl 10 months ago
Nah sorry just kidding around, I think you stumbled upon a classic philosophical problem. You cannot 100% truly know that your sense are correct. I agree with ChatGPT on pragmatism here: you can try proving it all you want, you will never get there. Better to just look at all those pretty flowers nature created in this weird universe!