Submitted 2 years ago by tracyspcy@lemmy.ml to meta@lemmy.ml
Communities that promote misleading information and conspiracy theories should be not allowed.
PS I propose to add this rule to lemmy.ml rules
My instance already has a rule "No Nazis, QAnon or conspiracy whackos", I banned the founder of that community.
lol how this comment could get downvoted :)
Some people don't like censorship and fascism I guess
Yhe purpose of rules and moderation is that everyone behaves well, eithoit personal insults etc. Not to decide what is true or false (thats what discussions are for).
If its really misinformation like you say, it should be no problem to debunk it with actual arguments. And if you dont like the community, you can personally block it.
Its just spam at this point and should be dealt with accordingly
I can space my post out a bit. Trust me you'll miss me when I'm gone
I understand your point, but I think what we all learned very recently is that idiots will be idiots regardless of what you show them.
Look at people from /r/joerogan for example, antivax and antimasks and such. No matter what information you show them, they always have their own biased (non factual, wrong) sources. They just hide in that. Is it not better to just cut the propagation of false information from the start? Avoid the congregation of sick/wrong ideas?
As they say, you can't convince someone with facts out of a position that they ended up in without looking at the facts.
That's exactly right. You could show them proof right before their eyes and they would still reject it because their opinion is not about what is being right or wrong, it's about being against the mainstream.
If its really misinformation like you say, it should be no problem to debunk it with actual arguments. you just opened a conspiratorial box of Pandora on lemmy.ml What I'm talking about is just to come up with a position and indicate it in rules.
And you want to ban people just because they have a different opinion. To me that sounds much more dangerous.
deplatforming works, though.
Please give...
... never a voice on Lemmy.
Such people and groups abuse platforms to win new people for their purposes or to confuse, lie and deceive others.
Thanks for reaction so fast in this case btw.
Please note that there is nothing inherently wrong with conspiracy theories. I think it should be obvious that there have been tons of big conspiracies throughout history. Uncovering current ones is probably in the interest of most people and should not be frowned upon.
What you consider conspiracy people are probably only those with baseless claims or just plain wrong arguments and I agree with @nutomic@lemmy.ml here: As long as the discussions are civil and presented facts not obviously wrong, I do not see a problem.
Conspiracy
As long as the discussions are civil and presented facts not obviously wrong, I do not see a problem.
This contradicts itself, if something is a fact then it is not a conspiracy theory.
I highly disagree here, I see a lot of problems spreading shit like 5G causes Covid and such discussions, they confuse others, they have no value at all and they are beyond anything.
During the late 1990s the overwhelming majority of people in my community believed in creationism and were against teaching the theory of evolution. I witnessed several debates in which metaphysics, the bible, and bad statistics were used to argue in favor of creationism. But even in these debates the opposition was highly controlled. The works of authors such as Christopher Hitchens and Richard Dawkins were forbidden, and these authors were demonized because they were 'immoral atheists'. I was dumbfounded by the degree to which the catholic majority would censor and distort information.
Regardless of whether I agree with the majority or not on a given topic, I would never fight for censorship because you never know when you will be part of the minority that the majority has chosen to label as "misleading" or "demonic" or "conspiratorial" or whatever.
On the other hand... There is clearly some trolling/baiting/spamming going on in that community. I think that if you ban the community or the user they will continue trying to stir drama. Looks like some kind of trolling weekend project. I am not sure what the best way to deal with that is.
2 paragraphs= "walls of text" 🙄
ROFL
On another note he's lowkey spamming and it's clogging up my timeline
See screenshot
c/drugs would you also delete it? because they spread drugs propaganda, deleting a comunity helps people? people will stop using drugs because you are censoring them? nope you just created the streisand effect
I'm not a fan of censorship, but I don't think that community has a place on your instance unless y'all change your rules to allow for more freedom.
To be fair, I'm sure there's so pro-pharma misinformation on your instance too but I'd assume that's okay with you guys. Misinformation may not be the true issue at stake here, but right-leaning rhetoric.
Personally I think this would be a bad idea. There is some quality content there and Lemmy folks would be missing out on some epic post.
None of those posts are epic tbf
Dang and I thought you were cool for a minute
dessalines@lemmy.ml 2 years ago
Done, sorry about the right wing spammers yall. I've been quite busy with coding recently.
TheAnonymouseJoker@lemmy.ml 2 years ago
Thanks a lot!
krolden@lemmy.ml 2 years ago
o7