This black man fought with Wellington at Waterloo. Is he not English?
Burnham signals support for bill to make ‘Black English’ and ‘Asian English’ census options
Submitted 2 days ago by mlcgdrhu@sopuli.xyz to unitedkingdom@feddit.uk
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YragNitram1956@feddit.uk 18 hours ago
YragNitram1956@feddit.uk 19 hours ago
Here is an interesting image. It is of John Blanke who was a prominent Black musician and royal trumpeter in the early 16th-century English courts of Henry VII and Henry VIII. He is one of the earliest documented people of African descent in Tudor England, famously depicted in the 1511 Westminster Tournament Roll. As a court musician, Blanke played at major events, including the funeral of Henry VII and the coronation of Henry VIII.
He is black but undeniably English.
WhoIzDisIz@lemmy.today 2 days ago
Not a Brit, but man I find this stuff fucking stupid. We’re all fucking humans & that’s all that should matter. Someday there’ll be enough cross-breeding that the only relevant category will be “mutt” - too bad it won’t be in my lifetime.
Diddlydee@feddit.uk 2 days ago
Whilst that’s true, this is specifically what a census is for - putting things into groups.
WhoIzDisIz@lemmy.today 2 days ago
Yeah, I know. Humans being what we are, my idealized society is unlikely to ever actually happen. Doesn’t mean I still don’t find it all a bit absurd.
TheJesusaurus@piefed.ca 2 days ago
The entire point of the census is to collect detailed information about your population though
wangaBanga@feddit.online 2 days ago
They sure are excellent at delivering shit nobody asked for. 🚽
fakeman_pretendname@feddit.uk 2 days ago
Good.
A bunch of UKippers or whatever they were back then had been pissing their pants about having to tick “British” and insisted that “English” should be added to the census.
So the sour-faced swivel-eyed gammonic ultra cunts eventually got their way and “English” was added to the census options.
But since then, the same or similar had been crying about how “brown people aren’t allowed to be English, because English is a race now, and its exclusively a white one”.
So this act, though small, might help urge enough of the screaming red-faced traitor cunts to an early heart attack, thus leading to the saving of Britain, perhaps Europe and possibly the world.
YragNitram1956@feddit.uk 19 hours ago
“Races” as distinct biological categories do not actually exist in humans; genetics shows more variation within so-called racial groups than between them, meaning humanity is one interconnected, genetically diverse species, Homo sapiens. While there are physical differences such as skin colour, these are superficial, resulting from adaptation to local environments, not deep genetic divisions, and race is understood by scientists as a social construct with real-world social impacts, not a biological reality. I attach a fine soecimin of the English race.
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fakeman_pretendname@feddit.uk 18 hours ago
I’m beginning to suspect that might the a photo of the OP :P
mlcgdrhu@sopuli.xyz 2 days ago
English isn’t an ethnicity? Is Ashkenazi?
fakeman_pretendname@feddit.uk 2 days ago
No. The ethnicity is “white”. No idea about the other one.
In the census, the race was simply “white British, white Irish, white other” and “black British, black carribean, black african” for example.