Submitted 2 weeks ago by Patnou@lemmy.world to [deleted]
In the US, a vast majority of people vote by party. They may not even know the candidates by name, and simply vote “straight ticket.”
But I was in line to vote a few years ago and overheard someone say something like “yeah I saw more signs for This Guy than for That Guy, so I guess I’ll vote This Guy.”
I have also heard it’s not uncommon for Americans to vote for candidates they think are more attractive, or have a name they like more.
Basically, we’re pathologically stupid
One of he reasons Trump won in the first place was probably that he was a celebrity
There are enough voters who don’t vote straight-ticket that it occasionally happens that different elections with the same electorate at the same time have different parties winning. For example in 2024, voters in Nevada elected a Democrat to the Senate, but gave the state’s electoral votes to Trump
In California where we are faced with numerous complex ballot measures in addition to candidates, it’s very hard to get to the polls feeling completely informed about everything.
There comes an uncomfortable moment where you need to decide if you’re going to just not vote for certain things because you don’t know enough, or if you’d rather make the best hasty decision you can. In that latter case, I believe people are vulnerable to all kinds of bulllshit influences.
One influence I often go by is what people I know voted. I have a couple of friends that make it their business to be super informed, and I know we share values. I’m happy to give them my vote in that case rather than waste it.
Sometimes the ballot measures really are impossible decisions. One side says they’re raising money for schools that’s desperately needed for essential safety upgrades. Opponents say there is no details plan for how the money will be spent and the same group already did this just two years ago so where did that money go? How is a private individual supposed to penetrate things like this?
“Money for schools” and “allow new housing construction” are usually automatic approvals from me. I know there will be NIMBY naysayers and budget hawks complaining, but I think we need everything we can get on those two fronts.
yeah, basically the only way to vote informed is to spend several hours researching the candidates and their values, ballot measures’ implications, etc.
before the internet that shit must have been goddamn near impossible.
it’s a lot to ask of a population who is largely overworked, underpaid, and alienated from their communities to the point where having a few uninterrupted hours is a fucking luxury few of us have even occasionally. and usually we want to spend those hours with friends and family… so doing something boring like voter research is a hard sell
ironically, informed voting is one of the ways we could start to chip away at free time scarcity
They mostly vote by party affiliation. If we could get that R and D off the ballot suddenly, we’d get some really interesting results
Our judges are elected in a “non-partisan” section of the ballot, but when you go to their web pages the party affiliation is prominent. You can take the D or R off the ballot, but not from the politics.
I mean if people are going to a candidates web page I’d call that an improvement. Forcing a voter to learn something about a candidate is better than just checking the box.
There are states that have “straight-ticket voting” where you just select your party and then all your votes go to the candidate aligned with that party. You don’t even have to know the name of who you’re voting for.
Sure, but honestly how many people actually research their choices? We’re dying because of low information voters turning democracy into a team sport
I’d be happy if you simply had to correctly spell the name of the candidate under the position they’re running for. It’s a really low bar as far as poll tests go, and at least everyone would have to do a minimal amount of research on the election to have their vote count
I go to their website and look at the issues.
I’ve encountered a lot politicians on the ballots that are very popular, but their website is trash (lacking clarity on issues) or non existent. If they don’t have the ability to find a company to make a website for a few hundred bucks with words that describes their platform, they probably are not capable of achieving anything in office.
Every single person does eenie meenie miney moe.
People vote differently. I used to look up every person’s name, prop, measure to get a good look at everything. Nowadays I use dsa voter guide and look up everything that they don’t cover.
Maybe I’m a sheep but I am dsa aligned so I would’ve voted for whoever/whatever they endorsed anyway so it just saves my time
I look up every person, read their political history, if they have any voting records take a peek at that. Then I look up every proposition look in to what the ask actually is, see who is paying for it and how it got on the ballot, and I decide on these factors.
In this election, I had to cast 50+ votes. Between the time my ballot preview is available and election day, I’m pretty sure doing all of those things for every candidate/proposition would essentially be a part-time job.
I do go through ballotpedia or vote411.org. I also try to find a voting guide from an organization I’m mostly aligned with to double-check my answers, then look more closely at races where my answers differ. Even just those steps can feel exhausting, and I can’t imagine doing this without the resources I’ve already found.
My ballot is 26 people and 15 issues. I only have to look up 15 of the 26, that was mostly for justices and I don’t know them by name. Most the other offices up for election I am already familiar with the candidates so there was no reason for me to look them up. I did read thru the voter guide handbook on the issues. That is where you can see what groups support the issues. I sometimes make decisions based only on who supports/opposes the issue, like if Uber backs it, that’s an auto no. I then search for quick overviews on the issues to make sure I really understood what the ask was and to also look for shadow supporters. Total I would guess about 2-3 hours over the course of a few days.
I get that is more than some people what to do and that is why voting feel overwhelming to some, but for me the time is worth it for something that is very important to me and only happens every 2 years.
Yes
Funnily enough the issues people care about, rarely if ever have any impact on policy decisions.
Yes, often it’s one of those two ways. There are also people who vote based on party affiliation, personal/organisational endorsement, religious affiliation/endorsement, looks/style/voice/charisma, and even some who choose more or less at random just to have participated.
What kind of responses did you expect from this vague, unanswerable post?
Platform.
schnurrito@discuss.tchncs.de 2 weeks ago
Different voters vote differently. This is really testing the limits of the sub IMHO.
Patnou@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
How?
schnurrito@discuss.tchncs.de 2 weeks ago
because it’s impossible to make general statements about how “people” in general vote; each voter has different motivations for voting