XCancel and Nitter: Why bother with US Law?

Submitted ⁨⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago⁩ by ⁨FreeBeard@slrpnk.net⁩ to ⁨[deleted]⁩

In my understanding, the “cease and desist” letter from χwitter against XCancel and Nitter is a warning to stop copyright infringement based on US-Law. The US-Law has no effect on most parts of the world. Why cant we just ignore it altogether? I understand that it will be problematic for US- Citizen but everyone else just have to obey their own countries jurisdiction.

Is there a point in the Internets infrastructure that the USA has enough leverage on to stop it anyway? Or am i downplaying the Influence of US Law on judicial decisions in other countries?

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nimpnin@sopuli.xyz ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago
Copyright law is highly harmonized in most countries, and has been for a very long time en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Berne_Convention

I mean you could run it from places that don’t really respect copyright laws but that means no EU etc.

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- Zwuzelmaus@feddit.org ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago
  The harmonisation does not mean much.
  
  The Us copyright counts if the new company is doing business in Usa (regardless where the company is).
  
  If they do not care about any users from there, and do not take money from there (for example from ads) they can show them the finger.
  
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  - slazer2au@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago
    Until you remember ICANN is a US org and will give your domain to whomever a judge tells them to, or your CDN disabling your services, or your VM host, crashHub is owned by M$ so they will comply with a takedown of a repo.
    
    “I’m not in the US it doesn’t effect me” makes as much sense as “I don’t care about privacy, I have nothing to hide”
    
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  - Arcanepotato@crazypeople.online ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago
    
    If they do not care about any users from there, and do not take money from there (for example from ads) they can show them the finger.
    
    What’s the basis for this? (More specifically: is this from a specific jurisdiction?)
    
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Arcanepotato@crazypeople.online ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago
Adding on to the comment about the Berne Convention: Threats of legal action are sometimes meant to intimidate and inconvenience. It doesn’t really matter if they have legal standing or not. The fear of having to defend yourself in court (or a service provider deciding the don’t want the risk and dropping you) is sometimes enough. These letters are super cheap to draft and send so they are sometimes scatter shot.

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- bedwyr@piefed.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago
  Which is basically what patent trolls do. Most of their claims would not win in court, they are threatening people with having to fight a long expensive court battle or pay them less than that battle would cost.
  
  It is extortion.
  
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greyscale@lemmy.grey.ooo ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago
Its because the US strongarmed its “allies” into being clients of their software and copyright laws. I wish Europe would tell them where to stick it so we can have a short, sharp break from US bigtech and their terrorist government.

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yogurt@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago
It’s not copyright, they’re claiming x and itter are trademark infringement and that scraping is hacking in Texas. That’s legally bullshit even in the US, but SpaceX lawyers not even trying is it’s own kind of intimidation.

Ultimately the richest guy in the history of civilization is mad at you, he’s a neo-Nazi international pedophile ring conspirator dissociated on ketamine that thinks he’s in the Matrix, he has a personal private army deputized as federal Marshalls by the US president, and he owns an intercontinental ballistic missile system that can fire a 10 ton tungsten rod into your country’s capitol from orbit and decapitate your entire government. That’s not a legal problem it’s a mutually assured destruction problem.

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- yesman@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago
  
  he has a personal private army deputized as federal Marshalls by the US president, and he owns an intercontinental ballistic missile system that can fire a 10 ton tungsten rod into your country’s capitol from orbit and decapitate your entire government.
  
  Who is on Ketamine?
  
  Leaving aside the scifi conspiracy crap, (And I’m holding out hope you’re just kidding) “Rods from God” are almost as stupid as space lasers. Every Newton of energy released by a kinetic weapon must fist be stored as potential energy, i.e. lifting 10 tons into orbit.
  
  But you can’t just do it once. You’d need several projectiles for each launch platform, and you’d need multiple platforms to credibly threaten the whole earth, and more still if you don’t want to wait hours for the launch platform to orbit over your target.
  
  Ballistic nuclear weapons are superior in every concealable way and that’s why we built those instead of scifi fever-dreams and star wars.
  
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