Same reason the proletariat want to watch sports matches, drink, gamble and whore rather than spend their time in theory study groups and people’s committees: what Marx called false consciousness.
As voter disillusionment grows, why aren't voters flocking to the Greens in Australia?
Submitted 3 weeks ago by okwithmydecay@leminal.space to australianpolitics@aussie.zone
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AllNewTypeFace@leminal.space 3 weeks ago
ACbHrhMJ@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
What’s the point? They have the sorts of policies that wouldn’t actually work if they had any power, thankfully they don’t usually get anywhere near having any. Hyphenated surnames are over-represented in their ranks. They are elitist, latte-sipping city dwellers who wouldn’t know a hard day’s work if it punched them in the face.
Other than that, they’re not bad.
Eyekaytee@aussie.zone 3 weeks ago
[deleted]Gorgritch_umie_killa@aussie.zone 3 weeks ago
Most Australians also absolutely detest Islam because it is an extremist backwards ideology
You gotta stop calling the religion of a quarter of this world an extremist backwards ideology. You’re not correct in your statement. If Australians detest anything its not having access to toilet paper.
Flattening the wide differences between 2 billion people is farcical. Not to mention you’re insulting hundreds of thousands of your own countrymen, 👏 well done you, who share your Australian values and have Islamic faith.
Try targetting degenerate extremists of any stripe and credence. That would be far more reflective of reality than targetting all and sundry hanging out in a mosque .
Eyekaytee@aussie.zone 3 weeks ago
You’re not correct in your statement
Feel free to talk to them as I have, you have to go deeper than surface level discussions of course, really get in deep, you’ll find they are much closer in beliefs to a muslim family first than the greens but they will vote for the greens if it means getting a muslim member into parliament
Now where did you put family first on your list of votes last time 🤔
Undercover report: Muslim leaders urges women to total submission
Six of the representatives were taped as they explained how according to the Koran, a Muslim woman is not allowed to deny her husband sex – it is his right, even against her will.
svt.se/…/undercover-report-muslim-leaders-urges-w…
I mean, encouraging rape sounds a bit extremist to me? But hey it’s only “one of Sweden’s most respected, and well-frequented, mosques is located at the heart of Stockholm, at Medborgarplatsen”
Radio Sweden coverage of the same investigation notes that 6 out of 10 mosques gave advice to women seeking help that didn’t align with Swedish law, including advising against filing a police report.
More than 40 people have been arrested after violent clashes in Sweden between police and people angry at plans by a far-right group to burn copies of the Quran.
www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-61134734
Jeez they REALLY don’t like Islam 😅 I don’t think I’ve seen even 1 koran burned here
If Australians detest anything its not having access to toilet paper.
When people were asked about negative attitudes towards different faith groups, 21 to 25 per cent of those interviewed said they held negative views about Muslims, but the rate in the self-completion survey was almost double at 40 per cent.
In 2018, asked whether they felt positive, negative or neutral towards Muslims, 23 per cent of those polled said they felt ‘very negative’ or ‘somewhat negative’, increasing to 39 per cent when answering anonymously. Results were similar in 2017.
www.sbs.com.au/news/article/…/3gp53uzkb
Not to mention you’re insulting hundreds of thousands of your own countrymen, 👏 well done you, who share your Australian values and have Islamic faith
This is what you sound like:
Jeez you really think all these people are extremist? You’re crazy man, not every nazi is extremist, only some of them, try connecting with your local nazi, you’ll find you both have a lot in common :)
MisterFrog@aussie.zone 3 weeks ago
I feel like we’ve had this discussion before. But to me all religions are nonsense, and singling out Islam seems odd to me.
The Greens aren’t a “pro-islam” party, they’re anti-discrimination, and pro-palestine. Which any person who’s anti-genocide is at least not pro-israel (disclaimer, I don’t like the Greens, but for other reasons).
The greens are a party that believes you can manage, reform and tax capitalism into something acceptable, and believe parliament is where power is and should be. They, like all the bigger parties, elect leaders from within the parliamentary party, and don’t really let regular members vote on policy (something I believe Labor does, but just ignores? I’m not as familiar with their internal party politics).
I’d argue why they’re unappealing, is that they don’t focus enough on the core issue: class struggle. Too many tree Tories in the party. Too many people who think if only we could get enough “good people” into parliament everything will be fixed.
The last election their headline policy was dental into Medicare. Good, sure, but they don’t talk about ablishing Medicare and replacing it with a truly public system, one where out of pocket costs can’t just come back every couple of years. They don’t talk about scrapping the stupid Union Accords Labor brought in decades ago which absolutely knee-capped union power by severely restricting the right to strike.
I just think your fixation on Islam is troubling.
All religions are dumb, in my opinion, but I’ll speak up against discrimination of all kinds.
FistingEnthusiast@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Because the average Skippy is still a racist, unintelligent simpleton
There are progressive pockets of the population, but even in the heralded cities, as soon as you get away from the inner suburbs, you’re deep in the territory of the halfwits
I made a move to somewhere considered regional Australia, and the majority of the people around me are simple hicks who constantly reinforce the stereotypes they get upset by
But it’s quiet and peaceful
Tau@aussie.zone 3 weeks ago
This sort of holier than thou attitude is definitely one reason why people aren’t flocking to the Greens…