Gorgritch_umie_killa
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- Comment on Cul de sac politics: Have the Australian Greens hit a strategic dead-end? 1 day ago:
Well the quote below is a mild, but surely by no mistake, direct critiscism of Max Chandler-Mather
While I haven’t always agreed 100% with his approach (either on policy priorities or on how elected Greens reps should wield power)
Sriringnathan doesn’t elaborate on how he differs from Chandler-Mather on ‘policy priorities’ and ‘wielding power’, so it would be up to him to elaborate. I said to u/manicmaniacalmania, i did slide into my own assessment with the pyrrhic victory opinion without a good enough distinction between the points there.
Meh, i wrote it late at night, the interesting stuff in that comment I think is the application of Gramsci to the idea Sriringnathan presents. Which is why I think taking strong stands, and creating excitement is maybe a good single election tactic, but not good strategy.
Say all the craziest dreams come true and Greens win an overwhelming majority in their own right, both houses, can’t move in the halls of Parliament without trippin over another Greens Party member, etc. The limiting nature of the Australian cultural hegemony, which I’ve labelled an investor-consumerist ideology, could mean they’d flame out. Have massive push back from the community, their own base even, who’re often very comfortable and I’m not sure well aligned to some of the harder socialist party lines, i think of this group as a kind of champagne socialist, the kind Sriringnathan as well refers to in his piece.
If they were to try enacting some more radical policies, even if they’ve told the electorate thats their plan, they could loselargw parts of their base, while also failing in those segments Sriringnathan refers to. Melbourne, Griffith, and outer suburban migrant and working class voters. All because what they’re doing isn’t within the contwxtual expectations of how life is lived in Australia.
A US Diversion (As an example)
Look at the unpopularity of the US regime, a lot of their own voters say ‘they’ve gone too far’; or, ‘they didn’t believe them when they said they’d do the thing’; or, ‘thats not what I voted for’ when their program was well publicised. A lot of what they’ve done is lifted from that well publicised Heritage Project. But fascism or corrupt monarchism is outside the cultural frame for the dominant social order in the US. So even though they have the coercive force of the state, and the oligarchs reach and funds, they haven’t significantly shifted the cultural hegemony. Think of the reaction to the breaking of Constitutional Amendments. Especially interesting is the gun rights threats of the POTUS. The puritanical-ubercapital focused cultural hegemony in the US hasn’t really been altered, even with the cultural influences of the likes Thiel and his CEO-Monarchism harem of chums.
So to bring it back to the Greens, bold stances are at best a short term election injection, or, at worst a distraction to be lampooned in cartoons from our own Beer Battered Mussolini, probably both at the same time. So I think it puts the cart before the horse.
Greens should be working on shifting cultural ideas. Do what Chandler-Mather is good at, being great communitarians, but also lampoon the right wingers, change the face of the ‘scolding woke climate change commie’ that is in these people’s minds everytime they think of the Greens.
Look at crocodile dundee, a massive environmentalist and indigenous rights side to that character, while also having this outback weather beaten edge. That character appealed to a different idea of what it means to own ‘land’ and why. I can’t remember the following movies, but in the first there was a clear willingness to hold the value of the land.
Of course entertainment is only one lense where the cultural breaks can be varied, but i thought it was interesting because I can’t imagine a large land owner cone outback jack character being presented in that way today.
These are pretty speculative and undeveloped thoughts I’ve got though, long story short I think Sriringnathan is advocating fighting a battle, amidst a wider cultural hegemonic war.
- Comment on Cul de sac politics: Have the Australian Greens hit a strategic dead-end? 3 days ago:
Its a short critiscism,
While I haven’t always agreed 100% with his approach (either on policy priorities or on how elected Greens reps should wield power)
He didn’t say it would have been a pyrrhic victory, reading back this morning i should have made the distinction that, thats my summation of that grand housing bill stand off between Labor and Greens in that term.
Totally agree that One Nation’s rise in popularity is what Sriringnathan is basing his thoughts on, and this is analogous, and likely directly linked through the new ‘international’ CPAC, to the rise in popularity of the UK’s Reform Party.
But, Sriringnathan has neglected to compare the Labour Party of the UK and the Labor party of Australia, they’re in very different spots. UK Labour and Keir Starmer are deep underwater on polling, whereas Aus Labor has had a minor swing against it, and Albanese’s approval ratings have been damaged only recently in regards the Bondi massacre. They’re not in the same position and there isn’t enough of a movement for deep change in Aus like there is in the UK.
- Comment on Cul de sac politics: Have the Australian Greens hit a strategic dead-end? 3 days ago:
What is J.Sriringanathan talking about?
First, he quite rightly praises Max Chandler-Mather for identifying a key winning communitarian candidate strategy summed up pithily as, ‘all politics is local’. Then he, probably rightly criticises Mather for pushing too hard, then failing, for a pyrrhic victory in a political fight on the job.
Then he draws a comparison with the UK Greens party who, while exciting, are at the arse end of a decade of austerity, a brexit sized blow to the economy, and an unfortunately underwhelming and certainly tone deaf Labour government. Sriringnathan is comparing a mildly over-ripe apple with straightened then smashed banana.
Lastly Sriringnathan, with a nod to it being a choice, advocates the answer to be a radical position of anti-establishment and deep change instead of progressive reformists, with the seeming assumption that Melbourne, Griffith, outer suburban migrant and working class voters all want insurgent tactics and bold policy changes. Sriringnathan doesn’t back that position up with any voter sentiment data.
This is an incongruous text, Sriringnathan ends up advocating the Greens double down on the politics he criticises Mather for during Mather’s term in Office, but neglects to mention the attractive and effective communitarian legitimacy Max Chandler-Mather built up in his electorate.
All because the UK, a country in a very different place politically, is on track for coalition governments due to many varied and enormous structural issues affecting peoples everyday lives. Australians have a few accute issues, housing, cost of living, I’m sure theres more, but the structure is there, its the will that isn’t. Labor already tried to fix the impact of investors in housing, they lost to Morrison and are gun shy ever since.
Labor are probably going to remain gun shy, and the Greens being anti-establishment, especially on housing, are probably going to fail due to the cultural hegemony in Australia’s housing culture.
This is Antonio Gramsci, where he postulates that “the working class and the other classes identified their own good with the good of the bourgeoisie and helped to maintain the status quo rather than revolting.”
Today was the first Tuesday of February 2026, thats Reserve Bank day in Australia, and we had a 0.25% rate increase. It took two minutes to find this mortgage calculator article and this one on the big 4’s reaction to the rates decision.
These are both helpful and well meaning articles, but in them they adopt the dogmatic acceptance of the Australian economic and housing system where all is suborned to cyclic inflation targeting. A practice introduced during the monetariansim phase in 1993, (take the date with a grain of wikipedia). 33 years of economic policy is not exactly evidence of its long term viability as the economic gauge to watch. Especially considering much of the Reserve Bank’s complaints over the years of the tools failure to have the effects they hoped. Adding to this, the ongoing and obvious failures of much of the monetarian structures worldwide, and there is nutrient rich soil for radical change yes, but are there green shoots?
Radical change can mean ‘move fast and break things’. The USA seems to be testing this philosophy on its whole economy right now, to “mixed” results, and its hard to see what their path forward after this phase. Or it can mean gradually at first, then all at once, this could allow for the propogation of new ideas to capture the increasing cultural malaise around Australia’s accute problems.
The tangled narrative that is the "investor-consumerist’ of housing (note, this hegemonic narrative is present in more of Australia than housing) is the philosophical approach that makes this problem so hard to figure out. On the one hand you have Australians willing to spend the money to accomodate a lifestyle they strive for, while they always consider the investment potential of any dwelling, hence the oft-repeated mantra ‘dont over-capitalise on you’re reno’.
The ‘investor-consumerist’ philosophy leads to De’beers style hoarding and constriction of supply in a successful effort to maintain or grow prices, at the same time as there is a gestalt drive to ‘upsize/sizemax’; move near the beach; away from the highway; and above the neighbours. These together have created a hardening wedge of less ownership with more consumption. In the case of houses, the more consunption comes through renting plus moving costs between rentals, plus the mortgages, which have turned into a sort of… long-term fixed place 30 year rental?
So, I don’t advocate a particular alternative economic system here, a wholesale economic revolution may be on the horizon, or maybe tinkering is all we need. But I know without presenting any economic arguments that capture the gestalt imagination of the Nation thereby changing the cultural hegemony of the investor-consumerist philosophy, the Greens calling for anti-establishment deep changes will fail to win over the interest rate targeting; home loan borrowing; investor-consumerist… Australian.
- Comment on Video - She Was FIRED for Criticizing Israel — Then This Australian Journalist Fought Back and Won | Zeteo 1 week ago:
Antoinette Lattouf mentioned a growing number of journalists striking out as independent organisations in Australia. Below is a list i’ve casually been building of some of those media organisations,
Ette media Independent aus Michael west Deep cut Crikey Urban wronsky Friendly jordies The shot The Klaxton John Menadue Cheek media Abby Dib Declassified Equator (monthly politics,culture, bot sure if this fits.) Inside Story antonyloewenstein.com/articles/
- Comment on Nationwide protests planned as details of Israeli President’s visit to Australia revealed: ‘We will flood the streets’ 1 week ago:
I think there should be no protests near the meeting places with this genocidal prick and Jewish Australians, but any meeting with politicians and the GG is fair game, and are probably the appropriate places to send a message. If victims and families want to meet with this person, well, I can’t help but question their moral compass, but if they personally feel it will help heal… then I’d try to be respectful of that.
But Australia should make his life hell for every point he is not at Bondi or directly with Jewish Australian victims.
I suppose a distinction would have to be drawn on what constitutes a victims meeting, and what constitutes a political meeting, I expect there’d be some grey area between those.
- Comment on Live: Colin Boyce to move Nationals spill motion and run for leader 1 week ago:
I think the media rural areas are delivered is a big part of this. Albanese needs to do something like Turnbull did when he opened the way for Guardian to enter Australia, he played a small part, but it was important. Albanese needs to introduce some balance into the rural media environment, especially after the conservatives (the scomo gov) handed Murdoch the keys to rural Australia in free to air license.
- Comment on Australia cancels visa of Jewish influencer who previously called for Islam to be banned 1 week ago:
This must be down to the lateness of the hour. I was referring to Joel Cauchi, the Bondi Stabbing in 2024.
- Comment on Australia cancels visa of Jewish influencer who previously called for Islam to be banned 1 week ago:
That answer has displayed, yet again, a complete lack of understanding of the individual and societal drivers that cause radicalisation. Religion is the excuse, but anger has causal connections to people’s material wellbeing, such as economic stability, subjugation as a group or as an individual (think about the M.O. for all those US school shooters, they’re often like your example of jihadi jake).
The simple answer of ‘Islam is the target’ is at best selfish to our physical selves in our own time and leaves any manner of ongoing issues for future generations to deal with.
Bondi??? Come on…
What do you reckon the beliefs of the Bondi stabber were? Despite the false and societally damaging claims of Islamist, he was defintiely not, and probably christian or atheist (doesn’t say what though). What about Desi Freeman, or any of the murderers in this post.
These are all radicalised people, harming others. Islamist terror attacks might be more numerous against Australians now, but they won’t be forever, and by targeting the group and not the root societal causes you leave the real problems to fester and harm different groups of people, out of each different group (religious or other) some will be radicalised.
Stalin, Pol-pot, Lenin, Mao all claimed at one stage or another to be atheists, they’re examples for you of truly terrible atheists, they had communist ideologies, but not religion. I find it hard to believe Stalin really had an ideology though, he was just pedo cunt I think, so of you really want a non-ideological mass murderer try him, or the Kim (NK) clan.
Also, you can say Islam is a bad ideology, and you want nothing to do with it. Thats okay, best thing to do is move through your life without going out of your way at every instance to attack Islam as a group with examples of individuals of that group showing their personal extremism. By attacking the group, we only fan the persuasive flames of the radicals exploiting the existing prejudices and causes of societal dejection these often, young men, feel.
To take your examples of the bridge flag cunts. If you blamed those people, and said what dickheads are they, instead of blaming all Islam for what ISIS represents, (which is how it comes across in your comments), I think you’d have a much better reaction from people. But instead your comments flatten the beliefs of millions of people under one homogeneous identity.
A personal source to end: I grew up with a Muslim, one of the most peaceful bastards I know. I also grew up with atheists, one of those I just found out beat and emotionally tormented his ex-wife. Go figure.
- Comment on Australia cancels visa of Jewish influencer who previously called for Islam to be banned 1 week ago:
Stop fighting this broad amorphous thing called ‘religions’. Fight policies, fight extremist ideologies of all kinds, afterall they generally end up with very similar policies of a need to dominate and top heavy hedonistic wealth accumulation.
For example, theres plenty of shit atheists, being a good person isn’t in what you purport to believe, its in what you do and act on every single day. By this measure theres plenty of good christians, jews, hindus, muslims, atheists, et al.
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- Comment on Pauline Hanson In Hot Water Again Over Controversial New Anti-Woke Movie 1 week ago:
Keep the bastards honest… 😂 😂
… please spare us all another round of the crocodile tears for some fictitious ‘yesteryear-Australia’ spun up in those outback jukeboxes for brains. Can’t even see their tapshoes for dancing they’re that deep in the oligarch’s rears.
In all seriousness though, screeching and crying over these movies these circlejerkers get off on is not the way to counter it.
The fact she’s finally owned the Please Explain moniker is a good marketing move, if insanely late. I think these movies are exceptional marketing. The LGBTQ+ communities, and othera, should take a leaf out of their book.
Fight humour with humour, but make the movies free, afterall its about reach not fundraising. I think it should be the LGBTQ+ community who get stuck in for a few reasons, they’re a key target for these people, they’re a pretty organised bunch, and they can be a cuttingly witty community in the best sort of ways.
- Comment on Australasian Society for Social Media? 2 weeks ago:
hiddenforces.io/…/the-epstein-files-are-worse-tha…
Been listening to this today, so thinking about the situation of media and social media in a more expansive way.
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- Comment on Peak Muslim body defends radical Islamist group as Labor pushes hate speech laws 2 weeks ago:
In that section I’m drawing a comparison to where the laws have been drawn, and where the laws are proposed to be drawn. Trying to show that these laws are a heavy increase to what exists, and questioning whether that is the appropriate extent to go to.
Although, i want to say, I haven’t actually read the legislation on this, and i did hear something about a 2 year assessment period. So I don’t want to claim these laws are definitely going too far. But I do want to draw attention to the fact that unintended people and groups can get caught by laws that were designed for others.
- Comment on Peak Muslim body defends radical Islamist group as Labor pushes hate speech laws 2 weeks ago:
I think their point is from what they’ve seen so far, these laws are open and likely to be applied unevenly and arbitrarily against groups that ministers and governments of the day don’t like. Tony Burke has already said as much. Their response is much in line with the assessment of the laws that Matt Canavan had on the radio this morning.
Jail time and criminality for hate speech is a very large increase in consequences for sonething ‘deemed’ as hate speech. We currently have civil remedies for hate speech, so people can be and are held to account now.
So its calling into question whether tolerance and freedom of speech for all is going to be upheld and extended with these laws, or whether the laws introduce an inequity based on the Minister responsible’s whims and biases.
The propsed penalties for hate speech of a decade or so in prison is such life altering criminal penalties the Minister responsible has available that in future could arbitrarily use these laws to harass and destroy the lives of people they disagree with.
- Comment on Peak Muslim body defends radical Islamist group as Labor pushes hate speech laws 2 weeks ago:
“One does not have to agree with Hizb ut-Tahrir, and can in fact be strongly critical of it, but banning Hizb ut-Tahrir under the pretext of hate is wrong and misleading,” they said.
“We cannot ignore the genocide in Gaza, which pro-Zionist advocates have spent the last two years defending.
“If hate speech is really a crime, then the words of pro-Zionist advocates, who have provided a cover for genocide, should first be prosecuted.
“Whether it is individuals or groups, we must reject any attempt to silence our voices through executive overreach.”
“When power to outlaw organisations rests on secret evidence and political discretion, it stops being about the law and becomes ideology and politics with the force of the state behind it,” Dr Rateb Jneid, president of AFIC, said. “This is not how a democratic country should define or punish hate.”
Sounds a fair assessment. Similar to the points the Liberals and Greens were making over the week about those proposed laws going too far in curtailing speech freedoms.
- Comment on Liberal election autopsy delayed after Dutton suggests report defamatory 2 weeks ago:
I dont know a way around that though without compromising a key function of the member for the house of reps. They’re elected by a simple majority but to represent and be responsive to that whole division. Its arguable if they ever really do represent the whole electorate once elected though.
Say if you were to introduce multi-member divisions to alleviate proportionality, that would undermine and potentially politicise every demand or request of individuals in that division.
For example,
In a two member division, a new liquor store proposal could be ignored by the conservative member who got a simple majority, but be taken up as a cause celebre for the junior member, provoking a political fight instead of where the needs and wants of a community are supposed to be forefront. In a single member electorate this can’t happen, because if the single member ignores some of their electorate they can’t shift the blame to anyone else, their inaction is an example of them not representing their electorate, thereby ‘hopefully’ hurting them come election time.
- Comment on Liberal election autopsy delayed after Dutton suggests report defamatory 2 weeks ago:
With outright majorities in the upper house as common as hens teeth, its pretty inarguable that we have something more complex than a two party system.
- Comment on Reporter to Canadian PM (Mark Carney) after Canada/China new trade deal: What did you mean by the new world order? 2 weeks ago:
Hooli dooli, Canada’s PM actively considering the architecture of cross border payment systems! Thats a clear indication that world leaders are moving to reduce the world’s dependence on the USD as the reserve currency. Its also an indication that the VISA/Mastercard near monopoly are in the crosshairs of non-US countrys.
If the Americans surrender one of their biggest strengths, financial preference and dominance, they’re going to find life a lot, lot harder. Paying for extravagances, like aircraft carriers, may become far harder.
- Comment on Labor separates gun control laws from hate speech reforms after bill turned down by Coalition and Greens 3 weeks ago:
I feel like Labor won the political week with this. Instead of being accused of going too soft and slowly, everyone is saying slow down and don’t go that far!
Yes, they’re being criticised, it seems they’re not going to be able to make any decision without that, but they’ve flipped the direction of policy indicated by that criticism. Can’t help thinking this was the plan in order to neuter the Coalition and Murdoch propagandists.
- Comment on Greens capitulate to right-wing campaign against the Palestine movement 3 weeks ago:
Yet, with all your typing, you make my point for me… in the thick of it aren’t they.
Don’t trip over those double standards.
- Comment on Greens capitulate to right-wing campaign against the Palestine movement 3 weeks ago:
Could just as easily say those posts are related to, or in response to things Zionists have done. But hey, they’re special little princes and princesses, we can’t criticise their role in all these. 👑
Its laughable the willingness to turn a blind eye to the other very active, and at this time more malicious interlocutor group.
- Comment on Australia to form royal commission into antisemitism after Bondi mass shooting 3 weeks ago:
Oh my! I’m not sure how you mean that! 😂
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Is that a dig at the UK for getting bullied to take chlorinated chicken from the US?
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A dig at their privatised water shemozzle?
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An obscure WW1 chlorine gas reference (this ones my over-active imagination for sure! 😂)
Or,
- just that its a dirty place that needs more cleaning!
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- Comment on Australia to form royal commission into antisemitism after Bondi mass shooting 3 weeks ago:
You’ve made an assumption that everybody today has that original view of Israel. Even though it’s historic origins aren’t disputed, its important to veer away from dangerous generalisations like this as much as possible, its what genocides are made of. Stopping ourselves from making generalisations about whole populations means we can always maintain the ability to comprehend the contextual nuances of one another, something I fear too many in Israel itself refuse to apply to Palestinians, but not all.
Take Australia: Australia was a settler colonial penal colony. The world turned and the idea of what it would be then, is not necessarily what it is today. And importantly, its not what lots of Australians now believe about their country. Some people may think its still a settler colonial penal colony. The history certainly shows some peoples such as Aborigines have a more than fair claim to still believe that, but theres others that believe its a US satellite state, and yet others again who believe we are young and free.
My point is, a country is made up of multitudes. No matter what a country’s founding beliefs are, they’re gona change, some will cleave to those beliefs, but others will see their country in a vastly different ways to the founders, and as their lives are lived the face of a nation will change, for better or worse.
So historically yes that was it’s intention, and likely still has many subscribers to that intention. But, we can’t assume that is everybody who believes Israel should exist, or the only reason driving that belief.
- Comment on Australia to form royal commission into antisemitism after Bondi mass shooting 4 weeks ago:
I thought that to. I think genevaconvenience has made a logical assumption, that Israel and Zionism are 1 to 1. This might not be correct especially for the individual who may nlknow more or less about the prigins of Zionism, and the Israeli State and yet have strong connections there.
For instance, I have strong famiky connections to NSW but when I go there, the place as a whole feels quite different culturally.
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- Comment on Explosions heard, low-flying aircraft seen over Venezuela's capital 4 weeks ago:
Yeah, like I don’t know about Africa. Welcome to the Sahel, you’re about two decades late to the party.
Wait, who’re the goodies and baddies! I think we’re gonna to implement some sort of cape system. Black as night, for the goodies, pink with gold sequins for the baddies.
- Comment on Explosions heard, low-flying aircraft seen over Venezuela's capital 4 weeks ago:
Rules based order allowed you to live a fairly peaceful life up until now. You’re going to need to change your opinion on the usefulness of soft power, and diplomacy. It would helpbyou understand the world better knowing what precedence means and its effects in human behavioural terms on the singular level and the macro level.
Most of Africa? Theres that racism on display again. You may as well call them shithole countries. Or shall we call them the bad guys, and then we can call the god guys to sort em out like we’re in childs story. Bad guys dobthis, good guys blow em up!
Its a childish view of the world. Two wrongs don’t make a right.
- Comment on Explosions heard, low-flying aircraft seen over Venezuela's capital 4 weeks ago:
You really need to learn how international norms and laws have helped protect Australia. The problem here isn’t getting rid of a dictator, the problem here is the precedent this sets. The US just made every one of their allies much less safe in this world, at a time when they’re pulling back from their commitments as allies.
Question you have to ask yourself now,
What stops China from coming and lopping off the Pilbara? The only thing now is raw power, of which, we only have a little. So is the US going to come to support Aus, can we still count on them? If you look at their behaviour around Ukraine, it seems their ‘friendship’ is pretty bloody fragile these days.
What about Taiwan now? Or some of the Japanese islands? How do you think those putative allies are feeling about this?
You want to set a precedent of our times? This just did.
Look at my comment history from yesterday, i wrote a long comment response that goes into the new geopolitical threat this country and the world now faces.
- Comment on Explosions heard, low-flying aircraft seen over Venezuela's capital 4 weeks ago:
This is not the way to stand up to authoritarianship. Australia has to keep out of this, even thoough it is damaging to do so, it undoubtedly is. There is no clean slate here for Aus. Unless all of south america stand up against US, there is nothing we can do.