Gorgritch_umie_killa

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• ⁨Comment⁩ on ⁨'Read the room': WA Greens reschedule Anzac Day dance party fundraiser⁩ ⁨⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago⁩:

  Hmm, it seems a bit problematic that it was going to be a political party fundraiser.

  If it was a fundraiser for Veterans, or maybe a thankyou party for campaign staff, would the reactions have been different?

  I’m wondering how much of this is Greens bashing, and how much of this is genuine.

• ⁨Comment⁩ on ⁨Rightwing lobby group Advance says it makes ‘no apology’ for support given to anti-Greens groups⁩ ⁨⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago⁩:

  They definitely threw around a lot of money, i believe the way the media counted the funding also probably underestimated the amounts they really had for that campaign.

  But the referendum was a complicated beast, misinformation certainly played a part, but there was also simple confusion, lack of goodwill, Australian’s natural propensity to be conservative with our actions. It was always a moon shot.

  I know the actual result ended up just about the opposite to the pre/early referendum polls, but i think too much weight is put on those polls as evidence for the undue influence No campaigner’s misinformation had.

  I’ll try to explain my reasoning below,

  A referendum is nothing like an opinion poll which is a cheap indication at best of a snapshot of sentiment on a subject.

  • The question asked by a market research company will be treated by a respondent with far less seriousness than that same question in a referendum. So thats one thing.

  Same thing seems to be happening to Dutton and the Liberals now the Federal election has been called.

  • The bar for a referendum is very high, that in itself likely has a tonal effect on the citizenry during the campaign, as the citizenry learn the double majority rules, and the practical finality of constitutional changes.

  • There is widespread misunderstanding, and distrust of the interpretive nature of Australian law as opposed a more codified system. The populous, i believe, thinks our laws are far more codified than they actually are. A fundamental, but often overlooked strength of Australia is our judiciaries, for now, ability to interpret the statutes/Constitution for the uniqueness of the case before them, the more codified a system is the less this nuance can be utilised by the judiciary. No where is this more the case than in Constitutional law.

  My point about interpretation of law is fundamental to the wording of the Voice proposal. It was intentionally vague for the protection of the courts ability to apply the real world cases that would inevitably rise.

  But by serving the interests of making good law, it made it a confusing proposition to the citizenry, and due to its vague wording allowed a No campaign ample room to attach all kinds of possibilities that the wording couldn’t reject without judicial intervention, ie a High Court case determining the limits.

  So the vagueness allowed a wide berth for misinformation to seem plausible, whilst being hard to deny or counter.

  • Lack of community goodwill, i also think, was a key under-rated problem with the Voice Referendum, especially when compared to the Same sex Marriage Plebiscite. A difference between the two is the relative dispersals of the two minority populations within the wider Australian community. LGBT+ persons are distributed relatively more evenly throughout class, race, ethnicity, geography, etc, whereas Indigenous Australians are for more centralised along those demographics. So there was a closeness, and therefore higher rates of familiarity, with LGBT+ Australians, than with Indigenous Australians. I think this played a big role.

  Then theres other factors like lack of bipartisanship, which decreased likelihood of rusted on Party line voters to vote in favour, against their general election behaviour.

  I don’t that was a big moment for Australia. I don’t think most people have reslly reckoned with the complicated reasons why that fell the way it did.

• ⁨Comment⁩ on ⁨Rightwing lobby group Advance says it makes ‘no apology’ for support given to anti-Greens groups⁩ ⁨⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago⁩:

  Its why i’m so excited by the idea of Activitypub. It offers the world another chance at a genuine ‘Market of Ideas’. And thats what i’m all about, sharing the idea’s not necessarily from a specific political hue, but they have to be based in the facts for me.

  But, i don’t think its a coincidence that theres a large crossover with progressive publications, and ‘factual’ outlets. Progressives afterall have to take the world as they find it otherwise they’d progress from nonsense to chaos. Thats something not all across other parts of the political spectrum feel a strong demand on.

• ⁨Comment⁩ on ⁨Rightwing lobby group Advance says it makes ‘no apology’ for support given to anti-Greens groups⁩ ⁨⁨4⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago⁩:

  So, i was speaking in the context of Australia. So thats important when considering how its working out so far. Each Nation’s media is distinct to a greater or lesser degree. And, i think its going pretty well here, not perfect though.

  You’re dead right about the media and social media skews. But Australia is, luckily/smartly, dealing with these issues better than most. We actually have a Government whonis willing to put up legislation afainst social media platforms, however flawed that legislation may be, that places known limits in the minds of those platforms owners’ power.

  The concentration of traditional media has been diluted from its zenith of power by the ABC, and the introduction of Guardian. One of which will never leave, and the other of which has a great deal of support. And of course those Social media companies whose interests don’t always align.

  Basically, i think its going better for us here, which the Greens success as a mainstay Party proves. Along with other minor parties, Nationals not included in that, they have a unique historical context which seems to have frozen them as a share of the electorate and nation.

• ⁨Comment⁩ on ⁨Rightwing lobby group Advance says it makes ‘no apology’ for support given to anti-Greens groups⁩ ⁨⁨5⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago⁩:

  Yeah, na, good point.

  I suppose i’s thinking of the longer term argument, where hopefully enough people learn the spurious claim that are made.

• ⁨Comment⁩ on ⁨Guardian Australia had a dream run. Has it lost its edge?⁩ ⁨⁨5⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago⁩:

  So that’s whats happened, i’d noticed a number of the big names had disappeared from the podcasts.

  I, for one am glad Paul Karp isn’t doing the Australian Politics podcast anymore, he was terrible. I’ve been enjoying some of the other journalists presenting the Essential Media updates with peter Lewis much more. Theres plenty of talent among all these people to take over the podcast, they could even get a couple of them on the podcast as joint presenters, a social familiarity between people on a podcast is important and dual presenters can really help that. Rest is Politics UK is a great example where this has worked really well.

  Still sad Murphy left, but i’d argue she was the only really influential loss. The space is now clear for some really interesting new people to fill the gaps.

• ⁨Comment⁩ on ⁨Rightwing lobby group Advance says it makes ‘no apology’ for support given to anti-Greens groups⁩ ⁨⁨5⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago⁩:

  Looks all’s fair in love and war, as they say, so I don’t see a problem with these people organising against the Greens, Labors, or anybody else’s policies. Let the best arguments win, which is great cause their arguments rely on lies, fiction, and crimes against humanity. The Greens need to be able to handle themselves against attacks like this.

  The real question i have with Advance, and Aust Institute for that matter is, who funds them. I have to accept them, i suppose, but if they’re going to have influence over this country’s politics, the average voter must be able to know who funds them.

  Greens Truth

  The Truthers schtick is so tiresome. Its like a gold star they put on all their homework to make themselves feel special.

  The type of assistance Advance has on offer was revealed by two Jewish advocacy groups in a recent forum hosted by the Australian Jewish Association (AJA).

  I suppose this is the real guts of the article, the importance of highlighting a truly sad partnership of the Reactionary Rightwing International. These Jewish groups and their links to Advance is a sad union for them to seek.

  According to Piper – who appeared in Advance’s anti-renewables Dollars & Destruction video series – the organisation is a natural ally for groups that feel they are mostly excluded from the conversation taking place in parliament and the media.

  “Advance is helping get publicity for the grassroots people who have been shut out of everything,” he said.

  The victim complex is unbearably boorish.

  They have the the largest private media organisation/conglomerate in their corner. They have not one but four plus parties shouting their propaganda. Libs, Nats, ON, Palmer, SFF?, Sustainable Aus?.

  They are dominant in all but reality. It is the realisation that no matter how much shouting at the wind is done, it doesn’t turn it back, it can create a hurricanes though… so that’ll be useful for exactly no one.

• ⁨Comment⁩ on ⁨Go Private?⁩ ⁨⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago⁩:

  So my non-technical view is it’d be better to stay public. I don’t know the costs for resources, so i’ll leave that for others.

  Staying open

  • People perusing the internet could find useful information on the communities here.

  • The views of normal people probably want to be visible on the internet in these times, i think AZ excels at delivering a space for reasonable people. Whether its AI crawlers getting skewed to psychotic, or average people trying to find a space that isn’t so extreme, i think the more visible reasonableness is the better.

  • the reddit argument. This is a clone of reddit afterall, and a mantra of reddit was to be ‘the front page of the internet’. Doesn’t mean we have to stay the same, but we should consider the departure from that idea and its implications.

  • Do we know the route that people take to become new users? We don’t want to block off that route.

  • Sometimes it can be useful for me to quickly look at communities without logging in, in the browser. Just to see what a post or feature in a particular community looks like. Its a niche use, and it wouldn’t be a big hassle to go without.

• As Abir fled her home on IDF orders, she said she made a horror discoverywww.abc.net.au ↗
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• ⁨Comment⁩ on ⁨The Coalition's and Labor’s faux postal vote forms are a blatant scam⁩ ⁨⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago⁩:

  Didn’t look closely at it, but i’m pretty sure we received a Nationals and then a Liberal one of these today. Might pull them out of the bin and have a closer look.

  No Labor one though, just a flyer. Or should i say yet?

• ⁨Comment⁩ on ⁨Brisbane City Council pulls funding for Queensland Music Awards over jazz award winner⁩ ⁨⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago⁩:

  Meanwhile on RN, David Marr is interviewing Omar el Akkard detailing the horrifying actions against Palestinians by the IDF, with the West’s support.

  The mild description of the IDF shooting the childs car moments after speaking with them, i found grotesque.

  Late Night Live - Reckoning with the West, Omar el Akkard (abclisten)

  Instead we silence and punish the most meager acts of support for Palestinians.

  One day we will be forced to reckon with our complicity and support of the crimes being committed. We don’t walk away from these lost innocents clean.

• ⁨Comment⁩ on ⁨Issues 23/3/25⁩ ⁨⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago⁩:

  I’s thinking something was up today!

• ⁨Comment⁩ on ⁨Who came up with the idea to cut thousands of public service jobs?⁩ ⁨⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago⁩:

  Good reminder of the Coalitions idiotic ideological demand for smaller government no matter the real benefits a trained and committed workforce brings compared to their contractor scammers, anybody like PWC to take back over?

• ⁨Comment⁩ on ⁨Look out for Burke in your backyard⁩ ⁨⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago⁩:

  Burke was the Chair of the climate-change-denying Australian Environment Foundation.

  Wikipedia article

  He basically beat me to my joke as well! Satirists aren’t lying when they say its genuinely hard to satirise these people now.

• ⁨Comment⁩ on ⁨Look out for Burke in your backyard⁩ ⁨⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago⁩:

  Yeah, i guess. I’s really gunnin for the jokes.

• ⁨Comment⁩ on ⁨Look out for Burke in your backyard⁩ ⁨⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago⁩:

  Yeah, been too long what did he do again?

  Could we call him the OG cancelled?

  Nowadays he could probably make some alt-right podcast about how woke the Deep State Gardeners are.

  1st episode:

  Cactus Conspiracy:

  Gardeners won’t tell you that you don’t have to live in a desert to grow them. ^cue shock and disgust^

• ⁨Comment⁩ on ⁨What’s a movie nobody can convince you is good?⁩ ⁨⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago⁩:

  Now that is an unpopular opinion.

  This is like an opinion some Easterling would have. /j ;)

  What if i told you its got a frypan wielding, tater tasting, gardener?

• ⁨Comment⁩ on ⁨Trump rejects Australia's bid for tariff exemptions⁩ ⁨⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago⁩:

  Maybe, its small enough to Australia as a whole though, that it might be better to try to ignore it and concentrate efforts on expansion with better trade partners.

  We, of course, want to react to things that hurt us. But we also don’t want to be seen to be over-reacting, or highly reactionary to minor slights. That undermines international investment confidence in Australia, which is more important to us than a country like the US.

  It would be good for us to demonstrate stable and thoughtful statesmanship at this time. We should configure our own response to maximise our own soft power and reputation in the world, because other countries are also observing how we will react.

• ⁨Comment⁩ on ⁨Sale of state-owned assets possible to bring down Tasmanian debt⁩ ⁨⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago⁩:

  Hey, Tassy gov should call Macquarie bank, the british are super pleased with how their privatised water assets have been maintained.

  Well done Liberals. As the world turns away from largely failed neoliberal policies of privatisation, you guys just keep pluggin away. One day the markets bound to magically become free without any intervention from you.

• ⁨Comment⁩ on ⁨ASX records lowest close of the year on Trump tariff concerns⁩ ⁨⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago⁩:

  Hahaha! Its nice to take a moment for a joke as the world begins its latest meltdown. This ones got nice brass sprinkles on top, yay!

• ⁨Comment⁩ on ⁨Israel activists infiltrate Labor Party in 'grassroots' putsch to hit Greens - Michael West⁩ ⁨⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago⁩:

  Yeah, theres definitely no point where you could say they had ‘X’ real world effect on internal policy.

  But in terms of political access, and financial backing theres certainly lots there. And those combined have the potential to have big effects on policy.

  I took it as a carrion call for the Labor party to be alive to an active campaign to influence the Party in a direction thats not necessarily in the best interests of the their Party, or more importantly the Nation.

• ⁨Comment⁩ on ⁨Israel activists infiltrate Labor Party in 'grassroots' putsch to hit Greens - Michael West⁩ ⁨⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago⁩:

  I’ve gota wonder what the AFP are investigating. If its something related to these people, well they seem to be willing to go to extraordinary lengths to support Israeli Government interests.

  Makes me wonder how many/if any of these incidents against Jewish/Muslim people in Australia are genuine, or if they’re to undermine Australian’s solidarity.

• ⁨Comment⁩ on ⁨Live: Zelenskyy regrets fiery White House talks as Trump demands immediate ceasefire⁩ ⁨⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago⁩:

  Kyiv Independent Editorial, Post on worldnews@quokk.au

• Live: Zelenskyy regrets fiery White House talks as Trump demands immediate ceasefirewww.abc.net.au ↗
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• ⁨Comment⁩ on ⁨Legendary ABC chief election analyst Antony Green to step down⁩ ⁨⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago⁩:

  He really makes election night fun.

  Some elections i’d just throw him on while looking up other status reports, just spend the night watching the election unfold, such fun.

  I think the craziest was the earth stomping WA Labor victory, it was over so quickly, sooo decisively. I did feel a bit robbed of my election watching night though, had to find something else to do.

• ⁨Comment⁩ on ⁨I think they're putting us in the matrix⁩ ⁨⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago⁩:

  I think a shade sail is the way to go, the bigger the better. In fact if you can find some buccaneers, i think a sailing ship sail would really make the building pop!

• ⁨Comment⁩ on ⁨Legendary ABC chief election analyst Antony Green to step down⁩ ⁨⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago⁩:

  Ah, serves me right for commenting without reading, cheers!

• ⁨Comment⁩ on ⁨Legendary ABC chief election analyst Antony Green to step down⁩ ⁨⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago⁩:

  He telegraphed this a while back. Job well done, wish him the best with his next adventures in life.

  Who do we think is gonna get the nod?

  • Ben Raue should be a contender, although his previous polical affiliations might get in the way.

  • Kevin Bonham, from tassy, don’t know much about him myself.

  • William Bowe of Poll Bludger fame. I have to go for him as a hometown hero! Lol!

  • Glenn Druery, the preference whisperer, could be a controversial but interesting pick.

  I’m sure theres plenty of other people who wpuld be great options.

• ⁨Comment⁩ on ⁨New definition of antisemitism endorsed by 39 universities⁩ ⁨⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago⁩:

  If they want to call me anti-semetic so be it, i know i’m not. I’ll never support, even tacitly, the repugnant actions Israel has undertaken towards their neighbours for decades. Its not a race, religion or culture thing its a ‘don’t commit crimesagainst humanity thing’.

  To get in before false equivalences, my values stand for all sides in every case. Especially my own country, Brereton Report is an example of our own National shame laid bare.

• ⁨Comment⁩ on ⁨I think they're putting us in the matrix⁩ ⁨⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago⁩:

  😂 Its mentioned, i think in the wikipedia article, that the ongoing maintenance costs of Lloyds are huge and were it not for the buildings historic listing, there is a reasonable chance they’d have already taken the building down. So you’d better allocate extra in the budget for those ongoing costs.